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    Microsoft Edge Making web better with more open source collaboration


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    For the past few years, Microsoft has meaningfully increased participation in the open source software (OSS) community, becoming one of the world’s largest supporters of OSS projects. Today we’re announcing that we intend to adopt the Chromium open source project in the development of Microsoft Edge on the desktop to create better web compatibility for our customers and less fragmentation of the web for all web developers.

    As part of this, we intend to become a significant contributor to the Chromium project, in a way that can make not just Microsoft Edge — but other browsers as well — better on both PCs and other devices.

    Making the web better for many audiences

    Working with open source is not new for Microsoft Edge. Our mobile browser has been based on open source from its beginnings over a year ago. We’ve also used open source for various features of Microsoft Edge on the desktop (e.g. Angle, Web Audio, Brotli) and we’ve begun making contributions to the Chromium project to help move browsing forward on new ARM-based Windows devices.

    Our goal is to do this in a way that embraces the well-established open source model that’s been working effectively for years: meaningful and positive contributions that align to long-standing, thoughtfully designed architecture, and collaborative engineering. Together we seek the best outcome for all people who use the web across many devices.

    Ultimately, we want to make the web experience better for many different audiences. People using Microsoft Edge (and potentially other browsers) will experience improved compatibility with all web sites, while getting the best-possible battery life and hardware integration on all kinds of Windows devices. Web developers will have a less-fragmented web platform to test their sites against, ensuring that there are fewer problems and increased satisfaction for users of their sites; and because we’ll continue to provide the Microsoft Edge service-driven understanding of legacy IE-only sites, Corporate IT will have improved compatibility for both old and new web apps in the browser that comes with Windows.

    Microsoft Edge + OSS: a new emphasis for Microsoft

    Over the next year or so, we’ll be making a technology change that happens “under the hood” for Microsoft Edge, gradually over time, and developed in the open so those of you who are interested can follow along. The key aspects of this evolution in direction are:

    1. We will move to a Chromium-compatible web platform for Microsoft Edge on the desktop. Our intent is to align the Microsoft Edge web platform simultaneously (a) with web standards and (b) with other Chromium-based browsers. This will deliver improved compatibility for everyone and create a simpler test-matrix for web developers.
    2. Microsoft Edge will now be delivered and updated for all supported versions of Windows and on a more frequent cadence. We also expect this work to enable us to bring Microsoft Edge to other platforms like macOS.

      Improving the web-platform experience for both end users and developers requires that the web platform and the browser be consistently available to as many devices as possible. To accomplish this, we will evolve the browser code more broadly, so that our distribution model offers an updated Microsoft Edge experience + platform across all supported versions of Windows, while still maintaining the benefits of the browser’s close integration with Windows.
    3. We will contribute web platform enhancements to make Chromium-based browsers better on Windows devices. Our philosophy of greater participation in Chromium open source will embrace contribution of beneficial new tech, consistent with some of the work we described above. We recognize that making the web better on Windows is good for our customers, partners and our business – and we intend to actively contribute to that end.

    What happens next

    If you’re a Microsoft Edge customer, there is nothing you need to do as the Microsoft Edge you use today isn’t changing. If you are a web developer, we invite you to join our community by installing preview builds when they’re available and staying current on our testing and contributions. We expect to have a preview build ready in early 2019 for you to try for yourself.

    If you’re part of the open-source community developing browsers, we invite you to collaborate with us as we build the future of Microsoft Edge and contribute to the Chromium project. A few near-term examples will include continued work on ARM64 support, web accessibility, and taking advantage of other hardware features like touch support.

    We look forward to sharing more details in the future as we test and learn. We are excited about the opportunity to be an even-more-active part of this community and bring the best of Microsoft forward to continue to make the web better for everyone. 

    Thanks,
    Joe


    Source: Microsoft Edge: Making the web better through more open source collaboration - Windows Experience Blog

    See also: Recapping yesterday's Microsoft Edge and open source announcements - Microsoft Edge Blog

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    Mozilla will probably follow suit and stop development of the Gecko rendering engine, at which point Windows users will be forced to use either Chrome or a more heavily modified version of Chromium (Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, etc.). How exciting.
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    Ground Sloth said: View Post
    Mozilla will probably follow suit and stop development of the Gecko rendering engine, at which point Windows users will be forced to use either Chrome or a more heavily modified version of Chromium (Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, etc.). How exciting.
    What makes you say that?
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    Ground Sloth said: View Post
    Mozilla will probably follow suit and stop development of the Gecko rendering engine, at which point Windows users will be forced to use either Chrome or a more heavily modified version of Chromium (Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, etc.). How exciting.
    Google and Mozilla reacts to Chromium-powered Edge announcement

    “This just increases the importance of Mozilla’s role as the only independent choice. We are not going to concede that Google’s implementation of the web is the only option consumers should have. That’s why we built Firefox in the first place and why we will always fight for a truly open web.”
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    Holding my breath (as well as judgement) on this. Sorry, but I'm not feeling it that MS will take something that works so well and make it better (or likely worse). After October, I give them a vote of no confidence. I still find it ironic that when I visit a MS site with IE11 v.11.407.17134.0, I get a banner that states my browser is out of date.
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    Josey Wales said: View Post
    Maybe this is the only way MS can avoid using Flash. The browser EDGE may require it to run..
    That shouldn't be true edge rendering engine can work just fine without flash. Problem is there is still web pages or web apps that require flash especially in older business stuff, just like java, flash still used by quite some web pages.
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    VBJP said: View Post
    That shouldn't be true edge rendering engine can work just fine without flash. Problem is there is still web pages or web apps that require flash especially in older business stuff, just like java, flash still used by quite some web pages.
    Then with all of the security issues why is Microsoft still using it? Flash will be gone from the web in due time. I use Firefox and I have no problem accusing any websites. The key word in the quote is "MAY". Java is also a threat.
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    Josey Wales said: View Post
    Then with all of the security issues why is Microsoft still using it? Flash will be gone from the web in due time. I use Firefox and I have no problem accusing any websites. The key word in the quote is "MAY". Java is also a threat.
    Because IMHO Microsoft wanted as much backward compatibility as possible, if they wanted for edge to replace IE. IE is still used in enterprises with old (usually internal) web apps/pages that use java and/or flash, businesses are slow to upgrade. Also tying flash with WU is better way to make sure that it gets updated than to have separate install.
    For most consumers at home yes flash is defacto dead. And new versions of edge disable flash by default.
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    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/post-mortem-tying-edge-to-windows-10-was-a-fatal-error/
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