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  1. HRPuffnstuff's Avatar
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       #30

    FF is still my first choice in browsers and I use chrome when I have to. Many times at work I keep work open in both browsers so if one drops out the other is still connected to my HRIS.
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  2. Mystere's Avatar
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       #31

    I have mixed feelings about this. In many ways, Edge is a superior browser to Chrome. It's more memory efficient, it's faster in many cases, and in others it's more standard conformant (although Chrome implements more of the newer features of HTML5 so it's kind of a wash).

    The argument from Microsoft is that web developers almost exclusively test with chrome, and thus inherantly design their sites to be chrome compatible (even when Chrome's behavior is countrary to the standard.. or perhaps where the standard is less clear implements things slightly differently). Thus, lots of sites are not compatible just because they don't test on Edge.

    I think it's a mistake to do this for that reason. Rather, MS should make it easier to test with edge (particularly on Linux/MacOS). But oh well. Now we're going to have yet another browser...
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  3. f14tomcat's Avatar
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       #32

    Mystere said:
    I have mixed feelings about this. In many ways, Edge is a superior browser to Chrome. It's more memory efficient, it's faster in many cases, and in others it's more standard conformant (although Chrome implements more of the newer features of HTML5 so it's kind of a wash).

    The argument from Microsoft is that web developers almost exclusively test with chrome, and thus inherantly design their sites to be chrome compatible (even when Chrome's behavior is countrary to the standard.. or perhaps where the standard is less clear implements things slightly differently). Thus, lots of sites are not compatible just because they don't test on Edge.

    I think it's a mistake to do this for that reason. Rather, MS should make it easier to test with edge (particularly on Linux/MacOS). But oh well. Now we're going to have yet another browser...
    I think MS also wants to make Edge backward compatible with Win 8 & 7. Go after all the gazillion trench dwellers that have no plans to jump to 10 any time soon, or ever.
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  4. Cliff S's Avatar
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       #33

    From 2017
    During the presentation, 'How to migrate applications, data, and workloads to Microsoft Azure,' the presenter had to shift from Microsoft Edge to Google Chrome to get the work done.
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  5. Edwin's Avatar
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       #34

    Timeline makes an appearance in 'Edge-droid'...

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  6. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #35

    Hi there

    still think Edge is too much like a mobile phone browser -- I prefer FF which still has menus etc. The only thing I use edge for is that it can display PDF files without the need for any 3rd party add on -- got rid of adobe reader years ago.

    However of course most Linux systems have a built in pdf reader anyway so if you are on Linux - FF is perfectly OK and any pdf file will be displayed in the OS's built in pdf reader.

    I can't see edge surviving out there as almost any other browser you can think of is superior.

    Cheers
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  7. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #36

    Hi,
    Yeah that 2017 presentation was priceless
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  8. LEOPEVA64's Avatar
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  9. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #38

    Hi folks

    In about 2 years -- there will be only 3 major companies left on this planet -- everything else will be owned or controlled by them :

    Alibaba (China)
    Google (USA)
    Amazon (USA)

    Even Russian FSF, American CIA/NSA and Israeli Mossad will probably subcontract I.T and data services out to any or all of these 3.

    As the old Star trek with 7 of nine said "Resistance is Futile --You will comply " !!!!

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    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. Cr00zng's Avatar
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       #39

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi folks

    In about 2 years -- there will be only 3 major companies left on this planet -- everything else will be owned or controlled by them :

    Alibaba (China)
    Google (USA)
    Amazon (USA)

    Even Russian FSF, American CIA/NSA and Israeli Mossad will probably subcontract I.T and data services out to any or all of these 3.

    As the old Star trek with 7 of nine said "Resistance is Futile --You will comply " !!!!

    Microsoft Edge Making web better with more open source collaboration-7.png


    Cheers
    jimbo
    Asides from I'd have no issues with complying in some cases....

    I doubt that I'll ever see the day that you've described ever happening. One of the reasons is, that there will be no foreign entities in the mix, only US. The other is that it'll take much longer than couple years and I won't live long enough to see that...

    In the short term however, the security implication of the "standardized" Chromium browser engine worries me. Especially, when it'll be part of the Windows 10 OS.

    It's not like the Chrome browser, and by proxy other Chromium based browsers have no vulnerabilities. It's one thing to have vulnerabilities in the browser and it's an entirely other, when the default browser for the OS is mainly coded by another company. By no means Edge didn't have vulnerabilities, the short answer is yes, it did. But do I want a third-party solution directly interface with OS? No, and the long run, it might proof to be a very bad idea...
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