KB4469342 Windows 10 Insider RP v1809 Build 17763.168 - Dec. 3 Insider

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  1. Posts : 568
    Windows 11 Pro
       #90

    f14tomcat said:
    Must be trickling out. Just got .168 on an RP in a VM thru WU. (too many acronyms!).
    WU just presented it to me today so the trickle down effect must be the answer.
      My Computers


  2. Posts : 26,452
    Windows 11 Pro 22631.3527
       #91

    Well then it would appear that is was not pulled.
      My Computer


  3. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #92

    Josey Wales said:
    Well then it would appear that is was not pulled.
    It may have been "paused" though.
      My Computer


  4. Posts : 16
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 2004
       #93

    kado897 said:
    It may have been "paused" though.
    Guess I must be "lucky".

    And I just got an important HP consumer BIOS update.
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 56,830
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #94

    Josey Wales said:
    Well then it would appear that is was not pulled.
    kado897 said:
    It may have been "paused" though.
    This .168 is not a Cumulative in the sense we usually refer to them, it is a Roll-Up Fix.

    I was using the uupdownloader to see if I could create a full ISO of 17763, with all updates so far. It did (took a while). This is an excerpt from the creation log I saved. You can see the difference in naming of the 2 packages.


    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1

    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1

    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1

    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.



    Here's the entire log, if interested:

    Code:
    ============================================================
    Checking UUP Info . . .
    ============================================================
    
    ============================================================
    Preparing Reference ESDs . . .
    ============================================================
    
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-onecore-applicationmodel-sync-desktop-fod-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-hello-face-migration-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-hello-face-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-internetexplorer-optional-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-basic-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-handwriting-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-ocr-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-speech-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-texttospeech-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-mediaplayer-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-quickassist-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-tabletpcmath-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: openssh-client-package-amd64
    
    ============================================================
    Creating Setup Media Layout . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Creating boot.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Using LZX compression with 8 threads
    Archiving file data: 959 MiB of 959 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim" original size: 399321 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 8 threads
    Archiving file data: 1041 MiB of 1041 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim" optimized size: 394703 KiB
    Space saved: 4617 KiB
    
    ============================================================
    Creating install.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Using LZX compression with 8 threads
    Archiving file data: 7349 MiB of 7349 MiB (100%) done
    
    ============================================================
    Adding winre.wim to install.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Updating Distribution Media . . .
    ============================================================
    
    ============================================================
    Extracting files from update cabinets . . .
    ============================================================
    
    1/2: windows10.0-kb4469342-x64.cab
    2/2: windows10.0-kb4470788-x64.cab
    
    ============================================================
    Mounting install.wim - index 1/1
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Installing Updates . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Cleaning up OS image . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Updating winre.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\winre.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Adding updated winre.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Unmounting install.wim - index 1/1
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Rebuilding install.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Mounting boot.wim - index 1/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Installing Updates . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Cleaning up WinPE image . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Unmounting boot.wim - index 1/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Mounting boot.wim - index 2/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Installing Updates . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Cleaning up WinPE image . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
            1 file(s) copied.
    
    ============================================================
    Unmounting boot.wim - index 2/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim
    Image Index : 2
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Rebuilding boot.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Removing temporary files . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Creating ISO . . .
    ============================================================
    
    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (500 files in 36 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (942 files in 83 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 4476370944 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 942 files in 83 directories to 17763.168.181203-1900.RS5_RELEASE_SVC_PROD3_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_x64FRE_EN-US.ISO
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 5 files, 190464 bytes (0% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 4478267392 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 190464
    
    Done.
    
    Press any key to exit.


    17763.128 Creation Log.txt.zip
      My Computers


  6. Posts : 3,274
    Windows 10 and windows insider
       #95

    f14tomcat said:
    This .168 is not a Cumulative in the sense we usually refer to them, it is a Roll-Up Fix.

    I was using the uupdownloader to see if I could create a full ISO of 17763, with all updates so far. It did (took a while). This is an excerpt from the creation log I saved. You can see the difference in naming of the 2 packages.


    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1

    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1

    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1

    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.



    Here's the entire log, if interested:

    Code:
    ============================================================
    Checking UUP Info . . .
    ============================================================
    
    ============================================================
    Preparing Reference ESDs . . .
    ============================================================
    
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-onecore-applicationmodel-sync-desktop-fod-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-hello-face-migration-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-hello-face-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-internetexplorer-optional-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-basic-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-handwriting-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-ocr-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-speech-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-languagefeatures-texttospeech-en-us-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-mediaplayer-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-quickassist-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: microsoft-windows-tabletpcmath-package-amd64
    CAB->ESD: openssh-client-package-amd64
    
    ============================================================
    Creating Setup Media Layout . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Creating boot.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Using LZX compression with 8 threads
    Archiving file data: 959 MiB of 959 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim" original size: 399321 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 8 threads
    Archiving file data: 1041 MiB of 1041 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim" optimized size: 394703 KiB
    Space saved: 4617 KiB
    
    ============================================================
    Creating install.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Using LZX compression with 8 threads
    Archiving file data: 7349 MiB of 7349 MiB (100%) done
    
    ============================================================
    Adding winre.wim to install.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Updating Distribution Media . . .
    ============================================================
    
    ============================================================
    Extracting files from update cabinets . . .
    ============================================================
    
    1/2: windows10.0-kb4469342-x64.cab
    2/2: windows10.0-kb4470788-x64.cab
    
    ============================================================
    Mounting install.wim - index 1/1
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Installing Updates . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Cleaning up OS image . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Updating winre.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\winre.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Adding updated winre.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Unmounting install.wim - index 1/1
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Rebuilding install.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Mounting boot.wim - index 1/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Installing Updates . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Cleaning up WinPE image . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Unmounting boot.wim - index 1/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Mounting boot.wim - index 2/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Installing Updates . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB4470788~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.164.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~17763.168.1.10
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Cleaning up WinPE image . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.168
    
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
            1 file(s) copied.
    
    ============================================================
    Unmounting boot.wim - index 2/2
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image File : J:\$UUPDUMP.cd6a35f2f6f5e738\ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim
    Image Index : 2
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Rebuilding boot.wim . . .
    ============================================================
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    ============================================================
    Removing temporary files . . .
    ============================================================
    
    
    ============================================================
    Creating ISO . . .
    ============================================================
    
    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (500 files in 36 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (942 files in 83 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 4476370944 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 942 files in 83 directories to 17763.168.181203-1900.RS5_RELEASE_SVC_PROD3_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_x64FRE_EN-US.ISO
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 5 files, 190464 bytes (0% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 4478267392 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 190464
    
    Done.
    
    Press any key to exit.


    17763.128 Creation Log.txt.zip
    Thanks - log shows some additions and fixes. Much more info than ms provided
      My Computer


  7. Posts : 2,297
    Windows 10 Pro (64 bit)
       #96

    I just got this on WU and I'm not an insider along with some preview for net framework update
      My Computer


  8. Posts : 56,830
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #97

    Scottyboy99 said:
    I just got this on WU and I'm not an insider along with some preview for net framework update
    Confirmed. I'm on 1809 17763.134 getting this:

    KB4469342 Windows 10 Insider RP v1809 Build 17763.168 - Dec. 3-2018-12-05_17h16_35.png
      My Computers


  9. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #98

    I am only now getting this CU. I am also getting a Preview of CU for .net. I am not sure what I think of having preview code on my main system.

    KB4469342 Windows 10 Insider RP v1809 Build 17763.168 - Dec. 3-cu05122018.png
      My Computers


  10. Posts : 2,297
    Windows 10 Pro (64 bit)
       #99

    Yeah not liking the word 'preview' either. I don't go in for any insider or untested stuff. MS should be doing all that themselves, lord knows they have the ££££££ or should I say $$$$$$$
      My Computer


 

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