Current Status of Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809

  1. Wynona's Avatar
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       #850

    JohnnyGui said:
    Weird, I never encountered that question during clean install.
    I think it depends on whether you're installing the latest "public" Build or the latest "Insider" Build, Johnny.
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  2. Wynona's Avatar
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       #851

    CountMike said:
    I don't want to sound like Spock but it would be logical to starts the second you press that button.
    I know, Count. I'm in agreement, but as far as I'm concerned, the jury's still out . . .
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  3. Wynona's Avatar
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       #852

    AndreTen said:
    Logic is undeniable for start. But when does it ends? And don't bring Spock in this, it's MS!
    Abolutely, Andre! Spock is logical . . . Microsoft is not!
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  4. AndreTen's Avatar
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       #853

    Wynona said:
    Abolutely, Andre! Spock is logical . . . Microsoft is not!
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  5. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #854

    Hi there

    If computers stop getting logical -- well A.I for a start could be an extinction level event.
    I'd love to see some "Non Logical" I.T coders --- must be a contradiction in terms

    Not getting at I.T guys -- you've also done a lot for all of us -- but sometimes a non logical "Guess" ot "intuition" is perhaps what makes us all human in the end.

    As an Engineer -- I've often done things which "Logics" might say are Bonkers but the end result works -- so we really need all sorts of people going forward.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. Wynona's Avatar
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       #855

    I'm one of those who cannot leave it alone until I have a definitive answer, which doesn't seem possible with Microsoft.

    With regard to Pause Updates, the only conclusion I can come to is that there is no definitive answer.

    The following is from my Windows 10 Production System.

    Current Status of Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809-pause-updates.png

    Note the statement under Pause Updates: Temporarily pause updates from being installed on this device for up to 35 days. When updates resume, the device will need to get the latest updates before it can be paused again.

    I would think 35 days is a far cry from "several months" I've seen in multiple statements.

    Secondly, I'm told I can only pause feature updates for 23 days and quality updates for 16 days.

    I will edit this when I get over to my Windows Insider System . . . And now we continue . . .

    Attachment 217450

    Note the statement under Pause Updates: Temporarily pause updates from being installed on this device for up to 7 days. When updates resume, the device will need to get the latest updates before it can be paused again.

    So, in the end there seems to be less wiggle room with the Insider Builds than with the Production Build(s) as far as pausing updates.

    Yep, I said, "seems to be", but maybe not . . . Note the statement under Update Options: Keep this off to help prevent extra charges so updates won't download while you're on a metered Internet connection.

    Hmmmmmmm, does this say what I think it says? Tell Microsoft your Internet Connection is metered and you can pause updates without pausing updates?

    Attachment 217452

    And now, here it is from my Production System:

    Current Status of Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809-internet-connection.png

    So, now that I've spent all this time trying to make sense of Microsoft's "Deferral" system, I find that a simple change to my Internet connection from wide open to metered should allow me to choose when I update.

    OK, I have some partial answers, and maybe a little help to those wanting to be able to stop updates for awhile.
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  7. AndreTen's Avatar
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       #856

    This is from my Insiders system Wynona (7 days):
    Current Status of Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809-image.png
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  8. Wynona's Avatar
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       #857

    AndreTen said:
    This is from my Insiders system Wynona (7 days):
    Current Status of Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809-image.png
    Yeah, but I'm still working on something else.
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  9. Wynona's Avatar
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       #858

    Well, the short answer to Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809 Now Re-Released - Page 86 - Windows 10 Forums is a simple Internet change from "wide open" to "metered" in order to stop updates.

    How long will it work? Who knows; probably only until Microsoft realizes someone found a way to beat their system!
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  10. ddelo's Avatar
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    storageman said:
    But didn't @ddelo do a clean install of 1803 ? I thought he updating hardware (new SSD) and removed his old systems disk and performed the clean install of 1803 on the SSD ? That would lead me to believe that the WU feature hold was not in effect on that clean install and when the clean install "Searched for updates", if found a feature update (1809) and proceeded to install that ?

    Maybe I missed a page back there ?
    Correct, I did a clean install of 1803, on a new SSD on Dec-13, which completed around 14:00.
    Upon completion I deferred the Feature updates for 30 days from the Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted) branch readiness level that I have chosen to be.
    After a couple of hours I was offered Cumulative Update KB4471324 for Windows 10 v1803, which was successfully installed and brought my Build to 17134.471.

    I was under the impression that the 30 days (or any deferral number of days) countdown starts from the moment I change the setting, but according to the ZDNet article by Ed Bott (one of the most highly respected columnists of our days) the countdown starts from the release date of the update.
    The re-release date of the update was Nov-13 and my clean install completed in the afternoon of Dec-13 (that's exactly 30 days).
    When the clock turned Dec-14, around 1 AM, I was offered 1809 by Windows Update, but not with the usual message (you know "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1809"), but with a misleading notification that "my PC was lacking some important features".
    Presuming that the 30 days deferral had started a few hours ago, it didn't cross my mind that these "important features", was actually 1809 and I pressed the download button. So I gave it permission to proceed with the installation of 1809.

    So, lesson to be learned. Deferral of Feature Updates starts from the update's release date.
    If someone wants to defer updates, just put there a high number (200 days for example), and when you decide to install it, go and zero the number, as playing with the days, like I did might lead to undesired installation of the update.

    Lesson #2: Microsoft is pushing v. 1809 to devices with no-blocking issues. So be aware and prepared (frequent backups etc).
    Last edited by ddelo; 15 Dec 2018 at 20:30.
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