Current Status of Windows 10 October 2018 Update version 1809

  1. IronZorg89's Avatar
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       #1090

    bru said:
    Either you don't understand what I said or you are mistaken. Microsoft wants to install all updates for their OS, that is a fact. Sure they give you other ways to do it but for 99% of the world who aren't literate enough this is how MS decided it should be handled starting with Windows 10 when they changed the update process. I shouldn't have to manually install an upgrade to their OS because they can't distribute it to me. Not sure why people defend a company that four months later can't distribute an update? People here like to install, tinker, play etc. I don't. I expect MS to distribute and install their update, so far they haven't.
    I totally understood your point, but I was merely offering a suggestion in the way that I would react in such situations. All in all, the final choice is always yours. LOL
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  2. IronZorg89's Avatar
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       #1091

    VBF said:
    The only "problem" is Event ID 1534 in Event Viewer as discussed here New 1809 update now shows this in Event Viewer

    There is a way to fix this. It is the second solution in the following article:

    Windows 10: User Profile Service Event ID 1534 warnings:

    https://www.ghacks.net/2018/12/29/wi...ao0cqqj%2e2cmc

    The only thing is that you really have to take full ownership of the TDL key before being able to delete it, for the way it is decribed in the article doesn't really allow you to delete it. I have tried it and it worked for me.

    For reference:
    Change Owner of File, Folder, Drive, or Registry Key in Windows 10 Security System


    Change Owner of File, Folder, Drive, or Registry Key in Windows 10

    Cheers!
    Last edited by IronZorg89; 06 Jan 2019 at 15:01.
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       #1092

    IronZorg89 said:

    There is a way to fix this. It is the second solution in the following article:
    Windows 10: User Profile Service Event ID 1534 warnings:
    https://www.ghacks.net/2018/12/29/wi...ao0cqqj%2e2cmc
    The only thing is that you really have to take full ownership of the TDL key before being able to delete it, for the way it is decribed in the article doesn't really allow you to delete it. I have tried it and it worked for me.
    For reference:
    Change Owner of File, Folder, Drive, or Registry Key in Windows 10 Security System

    Change Owner of File, Folder, Drive, or Registry Key in Windows 10
    Cheers!
    Thanks for the pointers @IronZorg89 but I'd already seen those articles and have decided NOT to mess with the Registry values, Ownerships or whatever for the sake of making Event Viewer look tidy.

    As much as these Events are slightly irksome when you see them, I don't believe they are actually causing problems as such - hence why I put "problems" in inverted commas earlier. I merely pointed it out "FYI" for other people doing manual updates to 1809. Maybe I should have said "issue" not "problem" - like the DCOM event I also mentioned.

    I repeat my thanks but, whilst this might be a little contentious, I actually think that excessive messing with the Registry and Permissions might cause problems down the road maybe even necessitating clean installs instead of just updates. OK so tweaking might make this Event go away, but the root cause may still be extant and the missing/ changed Registry values / permissions may even prevent future updates from completing.

    You said above "People here like to install, tinker, play etc....". I agree, but like you, I want a solid working system so that's where my tinkering tends to stop. The other thing, is the way i have my Windows set, especially Accounts and Folder locations is NOT standard ie my User folders are on D: not C:, DEP settings are not all standard blah blah.

    Certainly, i have edited the Registry in the past but only for issues causing real problems. Over the years, i've noticed that some data is replicated between different HKEYs for some settings. What if one deletes or changes one key or permission and it actually needs to be identical elsewhere, and after my edit it is not?

    In the link to GHacks you posted, it actually says that MS say "the issue that caused the entries to appear should not affect usage."
    It also says, more importantly, IMO.......... "It is unclear if there are side-effects"

    I sometimes wonder if people are their own worst enemies when they tinker with the Registry and are sowing the seeds for future disaster....we've got enough with MS doing that for us!

    I would be interested to know what some of our Gurus think of my opinion, and stand by to be shot down
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  4. IronZorg89's Avatar
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       #1093

    VBF said:
    Thanks for the pointers @IronZorg89 but I'd already seen those articles and have decided NOT to mess with the Registry values, Ownerships or whatever for the sake of making Event Viewer look tidy.

    As much as these Events are slightly irksome when you see them, I don't believe they are actually causing problems as such - hence why I put "problems" in inverted commas earlier. I merely pointed it out "FYI" for other people doing manual updates to 1809. Maybe I should have said "issue" not "problem" - like the DCOM event I also mentioned.

    I repeat my thanks but, whilst this might be a little contentious, I actually think that excessive messing with the Registry and Permissions might cause problems down the road maybe even necessitating clean installs instead of just updates. OK so tweaking might make this Event go away, but the root cause may still be extant and the missing/ changed Registry values / permissions may even prevent future updates from completing.

    You said above "People here like to install, tinker, play etc....". I agree, but like you, I want a solid working system so that's where my tinkering tends to stop. The other thing, is the way i have my Windows set, especially Accounts and Folder locations is NOT standard ie my User folders are on D: not C:, DEP settings are not all standard blah blah.

    Certainly, i have edited the Registry in the past but only for issues causing real problems.

    I would be interested to know what some of our Gurus think of my opinion, and stand by to be shot down
    Quite nicely put and I respect your decision not to tinker with the registry. As I said, just in a recent post, the final decision is always yours when other members of this forum offer suggestions or recommendations. No one is obliged to abide by them. In my case, I tried it and so far I am not having any issue. Not only I exported the TDL key responsible for this event ID 1534 before deleting it, but I also backed up the whole registry (full registry backup). To top it all, I always have a recent system image backup since I backup on a daily basis, i.e., at night when I am sleeping.
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       #1094

    IronZorg89 said:
    Quite nicely put and I respect your decision not to tinker with the registry. As I said, just in a recent post, the final decision is always yours when other members of this forum offer suggestions or recommendations. No one is obliged to abide by them. In my case, I tried it and so far I am not having any issue. Not only I exported the TDL key responsible for this event ID 1534 before deleting it, but I also backed up the whole registry (full registry backup). To top it all, I always have a recent system image backup since I backup on a daily basis, i.e., at night when I am sleeping.
    Well you're even more cautious than I am - but Macrium is certainly my friend. My System is imaged after any set of major updates have run in! I'm never more than 2 Patch Tuesdays away from a valid image.

    Part of the reason for my Folder strategy is that my DATA is constantly being backed up.
    Everything (including Favourites and Bookmarks) goes under a folder D:\ <My User Name> and the relevant subfolders in it are constantly being backed up with File History to an external drive.

    Plus I use FreeFileSync to make copies of said folder and all its subfolders at least twice a day.. to 2 drives!

    Did I mention my OCD?
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  6. IronZorg89's Avatar
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       #1095

    VBF said:
    Well you're even more cautious than I am - but Macrium is certainly my friend. My System is imaged after any set of major updates have run in! I'm never more than 2 Patch Tuesdays away from a valid image.

    Part of the reason for my Folder strategy is that my DATA is constantly being backed up.
    Everything (including Favourites and Bookmarks) goes under a folder D:\ <My User Name> and the relevant subfolders in it are constantly being backed up with File History to an external drive.

    Plus I use FreeFileSync to make copies of said folder and all its subfolders at least twice a day.. to 2 drives!

    Did I mention my OCD?
    . We are basically on the same track, except for the OCD and the fact that I backup every day using both MR and EaseUS ToDo alternating between the two every other day.
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  7. Wynona's Avatar
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       #1096

    Caledon Ken said:
    One thing I will say, the 99%, they don't really give a hoot about an OS update, likely don't even know it is out there and would rather it not update.

    The 99% just want a working computer.
    You have just described one of my daughters, Ken!
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  8. Barman58's Avatar
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       #1097

    In my experience it's even worse than that ....

    They do not care about the OS whatsoever, they write a letter using windows, they go on facebook, using windows , they play a game, using windows,. They are safe because they had Mcafee added, at high cost, by the box shifter who sold them the computer, of course, they've never updated the out of date three year old Antivirus, and their system has probably been a part of a bit mining net or other Botnet for 2˝ years.

    These are the vast majority of users, the 95% + of users, these are the users that Windows 10 Home edition was designed for, the systems used are automatically updated and hardened against current real threats, not just left to be sorted by an independent tech. The box shifter does not care about what happens after the initial sale, and even those who offer support as a paid upgrade, consider the repair of a simple fault to only be possible with a re-install without backup of the system or data. The experts that handle the issue sell more washing machines than PCs so why should they be expected to know anything.

    Windows 10 Home is a mobile operating system for PC, for those who are already using Android or IOS on a daily basis, If you want to be able to control the OS like you did in Windows 7 spend the extra and run Pro
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  9. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       #1098

    If this has been posted before please ignore.

    6.6% of Win 10 users using 1809, .3% still using the original.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/400961/win...ntation-worse/
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  10. slicendice's Avatar
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       #1099

    @Barman58

    Very well said. This is exactly how I see it.
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