Microsoft needs to refocus on Windows 10 fundamentals - Mary Jo Foley

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  1. f14tomcat's Avatar
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    Cr00zng said:
    That's one way looking at it, the end user is at fault for loosing his/her data. I tend to disagree with that...

    The most important aspect of any type of system is data. No programmer would write code to delete data without a. warning the end user or b., making a backup of the data. How did this shady programming pass code review? And even if this passed the code review, how did it pass Q/A or Q/C?

    But that's what you get, when MS eliminated 18K employees 2014, mainly in Q/A and /Q/C, and crowed sourced the same functionality. Forgetting that volunteers in insider preview and Beta tester programs are not qualified to perform Q/A, much less Q/C at the same level for free.

    On the other hand it did work out for MS from the perspective of the company's bottom line. Up till 2014 MSFT had been perennial $40 stock. Starting in 2014 the stock price is steadily rising, currently around $109, despite the fact that it is loosing market share, discontinued Windows smartphones, etc. Some people believes that Windows 10's telemetry may have a lot to do with that and it probably does. I don't really blame them, even if they do, since everybody does it nowadays. It's hard to say no, when one sitting on a pile of data and others are offering a big chunk of money just for sharing it...

    That would explain why the first thing any Windows update does is re-enabling the telemetry. Cynically, deleting user's data is the second thing and third thing is to mess with device drivers...





    This is the last pic posted, yesterday. It's the Garage at MS... the "Skunkworks". Look carefully at the red poster.

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  2. lx07's Avatar
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       #81

    alphanumeric said:
    It took me a bit to figure out what you were on about, lol. Then I saw my sort of typo.
    I'm not that good at English, sorry.

    I do get a bit precious about apostrophes as it is basically the only bit of English grammar I know.

    There is the subjunctive mood but that is probably utterly beyond me.

    Take care Sir, and apologies if I was off in any way.
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  3. Posts : 64
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       #82

    Fire CEO Satya Nadella !, Bring Bill Gates back on board, He knows things about past Windows.

    It's would be nice to have new Windows 11 Pro Special Edition without bloatware and less 10 processes running in background.

    Right now, Windows 10 Pro is step backward, They need to stop add features that cause break things few times and time consuming.

    There are plenty paid apps or freeware apps out there for us to choose what we want to install it our own.

    2 cents.
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  4. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #83

    lx07 said:
    I'm not that good at English, sorry.

    I do get a bit precious about apostrophes as it is basically the only bit of English grammar I know.

    There is the subjunctive mood but that is probably utterly beyond me.

    Take care Sir, and apologies if I was off in any way.
    No problem, we're good. Grammar isn't one of my stronger points, to be honest.
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  5. Cr00zng's Avatar
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       #84

    f14tomcat said:
    This is the last pic posted, yesterday. It's the Garage at MS... the "Skunkworks". Look carefully at the red poster.

    Microsoft needs to refocus on Windows 10 fundamentals - Mary Jo Foley-2018-10-12_16h30_08.png
    Well, that explains a lot... So, the guiding principles are relegated to "The Garage". That explains a lot about Windows 10 in general and especially about the updates...

    Let's look at it line by line...

    1. "Customer data is the boss" Really, does 1809 ring a bell?
    2. "Doers not talkers" What is this, stealing Nike's motto of "Just do it"?
    3. "Learn by hypothesis..." Yeah, hypothetically speaking 1809 release had been perfect... not...
    4. "Make innovation the expectation" Did you consider making the "it just works" the expectation?
    5. "Diverse teams make the best thinkers" If you'd listen, yes, but you keep listening to people who'd rather have Candy Crush updated...
    6. "Small is valuable" Don't want to be banned, I am not touching this...
    7. "We don't fail, we learn" I could give you a long list of example, but there's no use....


    Talk is cheap MS, live up to it...
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  6. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #85

    dgwin10 said:
    Fire CEO Satya Nadella !, Bring Bill Gates back on board, He knows things about past Windows.

    It's would be nice to have new Windows 11 Pro Special Edition without bloatware and less 10 processes running in background.

    Right now, Windows 10 Pro is step backward, They need to stop add features that cause break things few times and time consuming.

    There are plenty paid apps or freeware apps out there for us to choose what we want to install it our own.

    2 cents.
    From what I'm reading 10 Enterprise LTSB or LTSC is close to what your describing. No Store, no Cortona, no Edge, no bundled Apps like News, Candy crush etc. From what I've read mind you, I have yet to actually test it out myself. Other than the N and KN versions, its probably the only Edition or Windows 10 I haven't run. Doesn't help consumers though, its really only available to enterprise customers. Or those of us with Visual Studio subscriptions (formally MSDN).
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  7. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #86

    Even if you could, I doubt bringing back Bill Gates will help. His version of Windows is long gone. I'd like to know what he "honestly" thinks about todays Windows though.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 13 Oct 2018 at 05:03.
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       #87

    BTW, which clause in the EULA specifies that people who have W10 Home installed agree to be unpaid software testers?
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  9. Rocky's Avatar
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       #88

    Josey Wales said:
    This two builds a year should be stopped and a policy adopted that would make sure that every build was thoroughly tested prior to it's release. A user should not have to wait three months to upgrade. MS should not be gambling with users data by bypassing the release preview ring. The game playing that use to happen when an Insider would have to guess the next Insider Build which was hidden in a picture was ridiculous . The announcement that MS was going to be reorganized probably grew a great deal.

    That is why I left the Insider Program. It turned into a game and I was trying to do real work to help Microsoft.

    The Insider Program needs a new leader. Ninja Cat is not for me.
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  10. Posts : 45
    Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 20H2
       #89

    Never be an "early adopter" of anything new.

    I liked the old days of "pull" technology, not todays way of doing things by "push".
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