Microsoft needs to refocus on Windows 10 fundamentals - Mary Jo Foley

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  1. swarfega's Avatar
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    I've been saying for a while now that they need to release just a fixit buid.
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  2. Josey Wales's Avatar
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    swarfega said:
    I've been saying for a while now that they need to release just a fixit buid.
    Yes like a Service Pack.
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    I'm not an "insider" and know nothing about preview rings, et al.

    But I'm wondering: assuming you are right about the reason, what's their motivation for gambling on the bypass?

    Saving significant money, thereby increasing earnings per share and possibly the stock price?

    Maintaining an alleged schedule?

    Believing that the negative implications would be low even if the gamble is lost?

    Believing that the Release Preview Ring would not significantly reduce the risk of a bad outcome?

    I don't mean those as rhetorical questions. I literally wonder why they would take the risk?
    Hi there
    @f14tomcat

    Stock market predictions are extremely difficult -- if we could all do it accurately then we'd all be billionaires. Often there's seemingly no relationship to bad news (or good) and market movements.

    What you can say though is bad customer service and bad publicity over a period will cause a company eventually to fail.

    I'm not sure what Ms's current costs are involving Windows compared to its other products - namely cloud, service contracts, servers and other products -- robotics, AI, Office suite etc.

    Ms in any case for software wants to concentrate on the recurring payments method (i.e subscriptions) so their emphasis on home consumers and windows is likely to become much lower priority these days.

    Ideally Ms will want to deliver windows as a recurring payments service too -- although currently there's too much "consumer resistance" --however judging by the take up of office/365 by individuals Ms will obviously gradually try and wean the consumer on to this process -- Can't say though that I'll be suckered in so long as Linux is there and I can run legacy windows as Virtual Machines.

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    Ms. Foley is absolutely correct. Security of users data is the single most important characteristic of a useful operating system. Otherwise, why even use a computer? Timeline, excessive connectivity across various consumer devices, Virtual Reality and gaming platforms are toys and gimmicks. /asbestos on/
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  5. f14tomcat's Avatar
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    I like Mary Jo's closing paragraph in her article:


    "Earlier this year, Microsoft moved Windows engineering in with the Azure engineering organization, headed by Executive Vice President Jason Zander. Meanwhile, the other half of the Windows team, focused more on "experiences" moved under Executive Vice President Rajesh Jha. There are new Windows sheriffs in town who seem to care about reliability and fundamentals quite a bit. It could be the perfect time for a priority reset."

    [Emphasis added]
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    roy111 said:
    What happened is simply a calculated risk, I guess only early home users adopters where affected and this is the new deployment model, how do you not see that?

    I have pro and can defer updates (i had no problems indeed), enterprise users can defer even more that i can defer.
    Home users are the guinea pigs, forced to test features and exposed to bugs, before they can reach more "big enterprises".

    How can this be not cristal clear?
    So its working perfectly, unless your one of the ones screwed over? And thats fine?
    I'm not trying start anything by the way? I just don't see the logic behind failure is an option?
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  7. alphanumeric's Avatar
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    For the record, I agree with Mary Joe, something needs to change. QA needs to improve IMHO.
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  8. jimbo45's Avatar
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    alphanumeric said:
    So its working perfectly, unless your one of the ones screwed over? And thats fine?
    I'm not trying start anything by the way? I just don't see the logic behind failure is an option?
    Hi there
    That reminds me of stats pushed out by old telcos when a landline was essential

    They would say service is perfect 99.999% of the time -- didn't help you if you were a customer and your service wasn't working !!!!!. Doesn't matter if it works for the rest of the planet --if it's a fail for you that's it. !!!!

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  9. Dirk Gently's Avatar
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    One of the biggest complaints still is the utterly horrendous state of WIndows Update. Return it to how it was in Windows 7:

    Microsoft needs to refocus on Windows 10 fundamentals - Mary Jo Foley-windows7select-update.png

    So much better.
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  10. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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    alphanumeric said:
    So its working perfectly, unless your one of the ones screwed over? And thats fine?
    ..............I just don't see the logic behind failure is an option?
    I suspect Roy111 may be right in post 5.

    Not fine and not the preferred outcome, but an acceptable risk after deliberation considering that perfection is unattainable.

    We just don't know the reasons they thought the risk was acceptable. And likely will never get a candid answer.

    I don't detect a major furor. I don't watch "the news" on TV. Has it been mentioned on mainstream non-techy outlets?

    Total revenue continues to climb significantly despite Windows declining percentage of that total. That may be part of the reason for their seeming indifference.
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