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  1. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #980

    Josey Wales said:
    Indeed they should but what I don't get is why this only effects some users and not others. Look at my specs , I have a quite old system and without any problems.
    I don't think we will ever know unless MS fesses up.
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  2. Posts : 502
    Win 11 Pro 64 bit
       #981

    Josey Wales said:
    Indeed they should but what I don't get is why this only effects some users and not others. Look at my specs , I have a quite old system and without any problems.
    My family has two desktops and two laptops. All different setups, ages etc. Three of them I upgraded using the windows update. One of them I used the MCT tool to update when the windows update didn't want to install. All systems are running perfect if not a little quicker with no issues at all. Absolutely makes no sense.
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  3. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #982

    Hi there
    Very easy to criticise companies for this type of thing -- although in this case the Q.A definitely wasn't up to even amateur standard. !!

    I think though if anybody has ever had experience of working on large projects an often overlooked part of the process is in Regression testing -- that basically means while fixing a defect or adding something new a past defect can re-appear -- anybody experienced in large projects - not only Windows but SAP etc have experienced this either as a user or developer / tester.

    That's a big failing in modern I.T systems -- some of the younger people I've seen either don't know what it means or haven't a clue how to test it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #983

    CountMike said:
    Well, I figured that there is definite path any changes should go thru, Skippy>Fast>Slow>RTM (Pre-realese) and only then to unsuspecting public. Enough steps to filter thru.
    I haven't been in the insider program for a while. The usual long list of "known issues" turned me away from wanting to run them. Plus it would only be on my spare desktop so I'd have to force myself to boot it up and use it. It didn't happen all that often so I gave up on it.
    Anyway, those that are can likely comment on what's there and what's not.
    My thinking is, if a feature was removed in the Fast Ring Build, do they still patch it in the Slow Ring build? Assuming it needs to be patched fixed. Or just wait till that build is gone and Slow Ring moves to a new build. And if something is added, it can't be patched in the older builds as its not there? So obviously one patch won't work. Unless I guess if it looks for said feature and doesn't do anything if its not there? There are so many dependencies that I think its a lot more complicated that we think, or can comprehend. For me it is anyway.
    This upgrade was by far the worst for me as far as issues go in a long time. My system was crippled performance wise and reliability wise. Major networking issues too. Not ip6 related either, as near as I can tell. The Store and all my Apps worked Ok, just big delays and lag loading anything.
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  5. Posts : 26,452
    Windows 11 Pro 22631.3527
       #984

    kado897 said:
    I don't think we will ever know unless MS fesses up.
    stealth2920 said:
    My family has two desktops and two laptops. All different setups, ages etc. Three of them I upgraded using the windows update. One of them I used the MCT tool to update when the windows update didn't want to install. All systems are running perfect if not a little quicker with no issues at all. Absolutely makes no sense.
    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    Very easy to criticise companies for this type of thing -- although in this case the Q.A definitely wasn't up to even amateur standard. !!

    I think though if anybody has ever had experience of working on large projects an often overlooked part of the process is in Regression testing -- that basically means while fixing a defect or adding something new a past defect can re-appear -- anybody experienced in large projects - not only Windows but SAP etc have experienced this either as a user or developer / tester.

    That's a big failing in modern I.T systems -- some of the younger people I've seen either don't know what it means or haven't a clue how to test it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    My concern is that MS will release a CU and mess up machines without any issues. Maybe this should be some sort of optional CU that a user without problems can decline.
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  6. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #985

    Josey Wales said:
    My concern is that MS will release a CU and mess up machines without any issues. Maybe this should be some sort of optional CU that a user without problems can decline.
    What a novel concept, updates that are optional. Now where have I seen that before.
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  7. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #986

    I personally don't think there will be a CU to fix it. It would have to be applied before you upgrade to prevent the "isolated" (< Microsoft's words, not mine) cases of file lose. It's not going help them after the fact. I think a new ISO / image will be released with the fix backed in. Just my 2 cents.
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  8. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #987

    alphanumeric said:
    I personally don't think there will be a CU to fix it. It would have to be applied before you upgrade to prevent the "isolated" cases of file lose. It's not going help them after the fact. I think a new ISO / image will be released with the fix backed in. Just my 2 cents.
    The only other way would be an update to 1803 builds but I think you are right.
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  9. Posts : 31,666
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #988

    CountMike said:
    Why wouldn't one fix work for all ? Unless of course they shmuck something else up ??
    alphanumeric said:
    I guess that all depends on what was added and or removed from build to build? Stuff is depreciated and stuff is added. I'm not entirely sure one patch fits all (builds) in this case?
    I'm not even sure a patch to the OS would fix this. It seems to be Setup that deletes the files during the upgrade, not the OS itself once running...

    I don't really know and I doubt Microsoft will tell you.
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  10. Posts : 26,452
    Windows 11 Pro 22631.3527
       #989

    alphanumeric said:
    I personally don't think there will be a CU to fix it. It would have to be applied before you upgrade to prevent the "isolated" (< Microsoft's words, not mine) cases of file lose. It's not going help them after the fact. I think a new ISO / image will be released with the fix backed in. Just my 2 cents.
    But I have already upgraded and so have millions of others. I will not go back to 1803 and start over.
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