Windows 10 October 2018 Update rollout now paused

Superfly said:

Well I disagree.. there are oldies out there that need to be considered.. they grew up in a protected environment.

It's not expected that they are tech savvy... they are still thinking Kodak film that can be reproduced... not digital.

I disagree with you. If you lost a negative in 1955 or 1975, then you lost that negative forever. You have to have a basic understanding of what your priorities are.

Superfly said:

OMG, losing stuff though one's own negligence has nothing to do with the topic at hand... and good on you guys that have saved the World War stuff digitally - still not what I'm referring to...

I agree with Kari. Very well said!

I definitely agree with the people here that are disagreeing with the other folks here that have a different opinion regarding either the subject at hand or a tangential subject that is distantly related, in an obscure way. Good on you for either sharing your opinion or not!!!

Faith said:

This update is the cause of your downclocks: KB4100347 Intel microcode updates for Windows 10 v1803 - September 13 - Windows 10 Forums

1809 unfortunately overrides skipping that update, no way to avoid the underclocking.

Cliff S said:

@DJG did you check your power setting in Control Panel?
Or if it is set to balanced(even if you use full C States in BIOS) does Win10 not give you your 4.6GHz under load?
How are you checking your OC? CPU-Z? Aida64? HWInfo? Or just task manager, which is always wrong?

I stress test with RealBench, HCI MemTest and Aida64, have Aida64 panel on my desktop. I have my own power settings. I have had 4600 untill 1809.

Rocky said:

I agree 100% with this. I can not feel sorry for people that have lost "valuable" data because they never bothered to back up their precious pictures.

Why would you not feel sorry for them? It isn't a matter of not being bothered - it is a matter of knowing about computers/electronic storage or not. Things may go pfff and vanish into the ether - we know that - but not everyone does.

Superfly said:

It's not expected that they are tech savvy... they are still thinking Kodak film that can be reproduced... not digital.

This is so true - I had the same issue with my wife who isn't really an oldie (we are both just 21 of course) only last week. She had scanned a document to send to her sister some years ago and didn't save it. She wanted another copy last week - "Surely it is still in the printer" she said. This isn't stupidity or a cavalier attitude to backups - just lack of knowledge of how things work which is not the same at all.

If people think backups through and then say "well fair enough, I'll risk it" and make no backup then the lack of sympathy point is valid.

Personally I do think it is reasonable expectation for a device not to delete your files notwithstanding the 'it could break tomorrow' argument.

I'm pushing 81, but a retired computer network and hardware help desk manager. I still do computer support and build my own desktops. I have backups - what I preach to my clients - "Backups are not for IF they are ever needed but for WHEN they are needed.

I'm apparently not acting my age as I'm a musician and still working regularly in a band, have a home recording studio and also still doing electronics (amp repair).
Someday I'll slow down.

fireberd said:

Someday I'll slow down.

Don't do that mate.

We'll all have plenty of time for slowing-down, resting-up, once we're in the ground.