Windows 10 October 2018 Update rollout now paused


  1. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #2550

    CountMike said:
    In military it's called "Situation awareness and adequate response" as things never go as planed. MS is mostly reacting to (often imaginary) threats or situation changes sometimes overreacting but better safe than sorry. Adding new features increases threats and possibility of screw-ups necessitating more response and fixes and so ad nauseum. Welcome to progress .
    If we're going to use Military expressions or acronyms to describe Windows, I'd have thought SNAFU was more appropriate.
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  2. Posts : 56,822
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #2551

    VBF said:
    If we're going to use Military expressions or acronyms to describe Windows, I'd have thought SNAFU was more appropriate.
    Maybe AWOL........
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  3. Posts : 19,517
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #2552

    At least it's not Fubar.
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  4. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #2553

    CountMike said:
    At least it's not Fubar.
    Are you quite sure about that?
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  5. Posts : 96
    win10 pro
       #2554

    This is an article from ARS technical with there thoughts about updates

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...veloping-them/
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  6. Posts : 19,517
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #2555

    VBF said:
    Are you quite sure about that?
    I had enough of them in my life to know when I see one.
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  7. Posts : 502
    Win 11 Pro 64 bit
       #2556

    CountMike said:
    I was talking about not having to install W7 first and than to upgrade to W10 on same machine W10 was installed previously (upgraded or not).
    BTW, I'm in Skip ahead ring since it's inception, Started with first "beta" W10 and been in fast ring all the time. Didn't do a clean install since first official release way back when, never since I had to do clean install despite some problems.
    With XP it was easier to reinstall every 6 month and W7 every year than to muck around with repairs. Those were simpler times with much less complicated programs and smaller disks when in couple of hours one could reinstall everything, it would take me at least 3 days to bring everything to working state now after a full reinstall from bare metal.
    Have full backup twice a week and no disaster can touch me. So yes, W10 is most reliable system for me.
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  8. Posts : 750
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bits
       #2557

    CountMike said:
    In military it's called "Situation awareness and adequate response" as things never go as planed. MS is mostly reacting to (often imaginary) threats or situation changes sometimes overreacting but better safe than sorry. Adding new features increases threats and possibility of screw-ups necessitating more response and fixes and so ad nauseum. Welcome to progress .
    It's hard to imagine that MS is not aware of "Situation awareness and adequate response".

    The success of the feature update is probably monitored by MS, with the adaption rate being the primary statistic to measure the success. Unfortunately, this success is guaranteed by forcing a large number of end users with W10 Home Edition to update early. Those who can, with Professional and Enterprise versions, they already delayed or otherwise disabled feature updates. The chances are that the number of Professional versions that do not update is small, when compared to the Home Edition update rate, and Enterprise version update rate isn't even in the statistics.

    It does not help, that even in this forum, the general mantra is to blame the end users:

    • You should have a backup of your data
    • If the feature update broke your system, just restore the previous version from an image backup, or do a fresh install of W10
    • Alternatively, start the system in command line mode and run some diagnostic and/or scan to restore the system

    While these are sound advices, unfortunately, they are beyond the understanding and reach for most of the W10 Home Edition users. The same crowd that did not have these issues with W7 or 8.x all the sudden are forced to deal with it. And that's hitting them hard, much harder than the crowd in this forum...
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  9. Posts : 42,904
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2558

    This is sound advice. Anyone who has digital data is at risk of loss. You have photos and contacts on your phone- you lose it. You don't have a backup? Why not? Had you never considered that might happen?

    Do you believe nothing will ever go wrong with your PC?

    These concepts are not beyond the ability of anyone. Scouts' motto 'Be prepared'.
    Scout Motto - Wikipedia
    Not a new concept.

    It's not a matter of blame- what we very often do is educate users- encourage them to start using appropriate techniques.

    Nor is disk imaging out of reach. Free program, one or more disks.

    The difficulty now for the general public is realising they have a supposedly consumer product that is repeatedly not meeting its specification- and Home users don't have any real control of their exposure to these issues, by default.
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  10. Posts : 19,517
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #2559

    Those are things that should be normal in any case, there are many causes of loosing data not only LS's klutzy updates.
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