Windows 10 October 2018 Update rollout now paused

CountMike · 10 Oct 2018

BlueGuy said:

Eyi-yi-yi! sounds like crazy times over here!

Here,there,everywhere !!

Kari · 10 Oct 2018

kado897 said:

It's probably greater amongst those that are IT literate as they are more likely to have moved their known folders.

Yet they want to make us to believe that only 100 users out of one million lost their data. That does not add up.

CountMike · 10 Oct 2018

Kari said:

Yet they want to make us to believe that only 100 users out of one million lost their data. That does not add up.

Much harder bugs didn't receive so much attention so failure rate must be up to 50% or more.

Cliff S · 10 Oct 2018

That problem with Known Folder Redirection (KFR) didn't effect me because everything was already moved(first thing I do with a new machine that can take more than one internal disk, after installing Windows), even though only my Windows install is on C: drive:

C: Samsung 960 EVO -> NVMe M.2 SSD
E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB

This makes it soooooo much easier if I need to do a clean install or upgrading motherboard/cpu.
All I need to do is point the libraries, Hyper-V and Macrium Reflect to their respective disks, and not have to go through moving files, inporting VM's and the such.

kado897 · 10 Oct 2018

Cliff S said:

That problem with Known Folder Redirection (KFR) didn't effect me because everything was already moved(first thing I do with a new machine that can take more than one internal disk, after installing Windows), even though only my Windows install is on C: drive:

C: Samsung 960 EVO -> NVMe M.2 SSD
E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB

This makes it soooooo much easier if I need to do a clean install or upgrading motherboard/cpu.
All I need to do is point the libraries, Hyper-V and Macrium Reflect to their respective disks, and not have to go through moving files, inporting VM's and the such.

I've never been comfortable with moving the known folders. I set up separate folders on external disks and use libraries to group things logically. Where a program insists on storing large amounts of data in Documents I use Symbolic links to redirect it. Most of the dross in documents I ignore.

CountMike · 10 Oct 2018

kado897 said:

I've never been comfortable with moving the known folders. I set up separate folders on external disks and use libraries to group things logically. Where a program insists on storing large amounts of data in Documents I use Symbolic links to redirect it. Most of the dross in documents I ignore.

martyfelker · 10 Oct 2018

Behind? That place where your tail used to be in ye olden tymes?
Exactly

alphanumeric · 10 Oct 2018

If this has already been posted my apologies. Only just got up and catching up on all the news.
Microsoft reveals causes and extent of Windows 10 October 2018 Update File Deletion bug - MSPoweruser

Boulder · 10 Oct 2018

Kari said:

Extract from Insider blog:

I wonder how they get their numbers. One one-hundredth of one percent, it would mean that out of one million installs, only 100 users lost their data.

Comparing it to what I have read and heard, I get totally different numbers. For instance, after doing some heavy cleaning in my contacts, I have currently 117 contacts on my phone and PC. Out of those 117, four have contacted me since last week to ask help for this issue. Assuming all those who have not contacted me regarding this issue had no issues, and again assuming all of them did the upgrade, it would mean that 3.42 percent of my contacts lost their data. That percentage would mean 34,200 users out of million installs losing the data, compared to 100 Microsoft says were affected.

Of course among my contacts the actual percentage is even higher. Not all of them are using Windows 10, and not all using Windows 10 did the upgrade.

I am just wondering, where do they get their numbers?

Kari

That is probably just those who have been in touch with Microsoft. The vast majority will have just restored backups, be in a blind panic, accepted their loses or just not know what to do. Many will probably just think they must have done something wrong themselves but the reputation damage and loss of trust will remain and it is likely they will eventually find out that it was a Microsoft bug that Microsoft knew about before it went on general release.

VBF · 10 Oct 2018

alphanumeric said:

If this has already been posted my apologies. Only just got up and catching up on all the news.
Microsoft reveals causes and extent of Windows 10 October 2018 Update File Deletion bug - MSPoweruser

And in that article it says:

The user configured one or more of their Known Folders (Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Screenshots, Videos, Camera Roll, etc.) to be redirected (KFR) to another folder on OneDrive. For example, the user changed the location property of the documents folder from c:\users\username\documents to another folder. During this process the system prompts the user and asks if they would like to move the files to the new location. If the files were not moved and the October 2018 Update is installed the original “old” folder was deleted including the files in that folder."

Read the bit I've highlighted in red.

IMO, this would (could) also affect anyone who moved anything under C:\users to (say) D:\users, by whatever means! If I'm honest, I'd never heard the acronym KFR until this incident, but I most certainly have my "users" on D: which has worked for me since XP days.

Difference is, I do it manually to other drives or partitions, not OneDrive when I first install Windows. Is that regarded as KFR?

So as I did move the folders, so that the original "old" folder effectively doesn't exist, would the bug have got me or not? Rhetorical question as I presume I'll never know!

What a way to run a software company