Windows 10 October 2018 Update rollout now paused


  1. Posts : 2,491
    Windows Insider Fast Ring LatestKUuuntu 20.10
       #1210

    Does anybody know if the file deletion problem in build 17763.1 is also in the Enterprise Edition. Serious stuff if it is
    Hope Microsoft doesn't just force a sllent fix.
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  2. Posts : 19,520
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #1211

    krzemien said:
    I am happily upgraded since 1607 onwards and it does work for me all the time? So why waste time and do a clean install (plus set up and re-installation of everything else - which is very time consuming) every 6 months?

    If you don't have other things to do, then perhaps why not?
    I'd have at least 3 - 4 days of work to reinstall and set everything up. My main machine has started from W7 upgrade first day W10 started and has been in fast and Skippy insider builds all that time. Few backups restored in mean time, hey, that's what they are for.
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  3. Posts : 802
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #1212

    CountMike said:
    I'd have at least 3 - 4 days of work to reinstall and set everything up
    Ditto - and only if you know exactly what, where and how. Starting from simple re-installation of everything you had installed and finishing with fiddling with buried GUI options and registry tweaks.

    Even simple File History session is a nightmare as it requires full resync, with previous version to be ditched. And then there's Search Index that needs building and takes ages to complete.

    So, waste of time IMHO.
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  4. Posts : 31,921
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #1213

    Quexos said:
    I would never do an "upgrade" to any Windows OS, ever. Always clean format and install...

    krzemien said:
    I am happily upgraded since 1607 onwards and it does work for me all the time...
    Me too, from further back than that. I started by upgrading from OEM Win7 to 1507 then every subsequent update up to and including 1809.

    A clean install would be a disaster for me. I have amongst other things some OEM-installed Office apps that are impossible to reinstall. Their keys show each app was individually installed, but you can't get stand-alone installers for Word, Excel, etc. any more - just the Office suite for which these keys won't work.
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  5. Posts : 802
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #1214

    Ah yes, all this OEM-supplied stuff that I forgot to include above as well, of course. Another can of joy...
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  6. Posts : 985
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
       #1215

    bo elam said:
    Myself, I didn't lose any files after updating to 1809 but the whole computer experience became degraded after the update. 1809 did not feel right in my computer. Performance felt terrible. Never before I putted much attention to Memory usage as there was no reason to, as I got nothing running other than Microsoft processes and some of the programs that came originally with the laptop.

    But with 1809, I found myself looking at Memory in Task manager as even activities like opening Settings, Task manager or clicking Start menu, took a lot. For example, when I clicked to open Settings or Start menu, I would see the swirling wheel next to the pointer of the browser. I dont play games or do anything that consumes lots of resources and got almost nothing running at all times, my computer has always felt great with all previous versions going back to 1607. But with 1809, everything I usually do with the computer, takes more memory. I seen a couple reports in this thread of Memory rising up to 65%. I didnt get to see it that high, but 1 or 2% above 50%.

    Anyway, I just didn't feel comfortable with 1809. So, when I saw that it got pulled.I went back to 1803 using the Recovery Option in Settings. Thats the first time I used that Option. It worked fine. It took a few minutes, very fast. You ask, about what you should do and whether the Recovery Option is safe. I think you should do what your instinct tells you. Myself, I didnt feel comfortable with the new version and when I saw it got pulled, that told me to go back to 1803. No pondering. I am glad I did.

    About how reliable it is to go back using the Recovery Option in Settings. This is what I found. Basically, everything was as it was when I updated but I was surprised to see that a couple of programs I uninstalled while in 1809 were still uninstalled when I got back to 1803. My thinking before going back was that they were going to be put back when landing in 1803, but they were not. This programs were 2 programs from Intel that I always wanted to get rid of but never did get rid of them as information in the internet tells that there might be problems after uninstalling them. This detail should tell people reading here how terrible 1809 felt in my computer as I took a chance getting rid of this programs that I always wanted to get rid but never did before because I was afraid. Memory was a little better after uninstalling this programs but I still felt going back to 1803 was the right thing to do (for me).

    When you click to go back, there was some sort of questionnaire asking why you going back, I choose the option that seemed closer to lost performance. It didnt say the word performance but thats what it meant. So, hopefully when 1809 is out again (tomorrow or whenever) Microsoft takes your answer into consideration and dont push it right away. Thats what I am hoping as I dont want 1809 right now.

    Another thing I noticed after going back is that my free space is about 7Gb shorter that before the update. The option to clean up update files was about 650MB. There are no more Options to clean more or folders in C drive related to this type of updates. In my unprofessional way of thinking, I ll say probably those GBs are the 1809 downloaded files and setup or whatever and MS is saving them for a future reinstall. I hope this is not the case as I would prefer not to reinstall same version of 1809 in the future when the time comes.

    Bo
    Hi Bo, Thanks very much for your in depth feedback. I too have done what you did. I decided it was safer to Roll Back to 1803 because I was noticing speed issues too but no loss of files. I was surprised how quick it was...the whole process took about 15 minutes! I thought that it would have set up 1803 to the point when I downloaded it using the Media Creation Tool back in May. By that I mean I thought all security updates and Cumulative updates would have to be redownloaded again to bring 1803 back up to date. That wasn't the case it replaced 1803 build on my laptop fully updated to the point right before the 1809 feature update had been installed on October 2nd.
    The questionnaire you refer to I selected that the previous build was more reliable. Im not sure that Microsoft will take that answer into consideration when deciding whether to push the fixed 1809 version to you immediately or not. I suspect they might be using that feedback to assess which problems people are having that's all. Just a guess but you may be right I don't know
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  7. Posts : 15,071
    Windows 10 IoT
       #1216

    Some 1809 downloads are back up on My Visual Studio, Language Packs, features on Demand, ADK etc. No actual OS install media though. Just a FYI post.
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  8. Posts : 26,487
    Windows 11 Pro 26100.712
       #1217

    alphanumeric said:
    Some 1809 downloads are back up on My Visual Studio, Language Packs, features on Demand, ADK etc. No actual OS install media though. Just a FYI post.
    This may be a good sign.

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  9. Posts : 15,071
    Windows 10 IoT
       #1218

    Bree said:
    Me too, from further back than that. I started by upgrading from OEM Win7 to 1507 then every subsequent update up to and including 1809.

    A clean install would be a disaster for me. I have amongst other things some OEM-installed Office apps that are impossible to reinstall. Their keys show each app was individually installed, but you can't get stand-alone installers for Word, Excel, etc. any more - just the Office suite for which these keys won't work.
    I have separate listings for Outlook, Access, and OneNote on My Visual Studio, mostly older versions. Like you say though, no separate Word or Excel.
    And Office Pro Plus won't let you pick and chose what to install, it just installs everything by default now.
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  10. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #1219

    Sounds like I wont need to redo the install judging by her comment.
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