Windows 10 October 2018 Update rollout now paused  

lx07 said:

Well according to Wikipedia it isn't isn't observed in AK, AR, CA, DE, FL, HI, MI, MN, ND, NV, OR, SD, TX, VT, WA, or WY. Seems if you are in NJ then it is spreading.

A good thing imo (although not my business one way or the other of course)

What is AK, AR, CA, DE, FL, HI, MI, MN, ND, NV, OR, SD, TX, VT, WA, or WY :-D?

Are you guys across the Pond still using cheques? They have virtually died out here as most retailers no longer accept them (Interestingly the banks have just had to do a U turn on phasing them out completely, as they could not come up with a suitable alternative for postal payments).

cereberus said:

Completely bug free coding does exist but only in very simple systems - pseudo code example follows

print the square of a numbers from 1 to 10.

For i = 1 to 10
print i, i*i
next i

It is the moment you start adding conditionals, things start to fall apart

print square of numbers from 1 to 5, cubes from 6 to 10.

For i=1 to 10
If i <5 print i, i*i
if i >5 print i, i*i*i
next i

Ok a trivial example but the eagle eyed will see the obvious mistake here. 5 squared will not be printed.

Compound this by millions of lines of coding, and it is impossible to test every pathway through the code. Indeed, sometimes coding gets stranded or executed erroneously.

This is why we write unit tests for this type of code blocks.

Things usually start falling apart when we combine thousands of units. Alone they work perfectly but they fail to produce the correct outcome for every case in the big picture. These bugs can be really nasty to detect, but most of them get caught during other testing methods.

Forceflow said:

Since the fast ring is already serving 19H1, does that mean that the "fix" for the 1809 issues will come down as a CU? Since they cannot really make a new build and put it on fast ring ...

This might be a misintepretation.

I'm just afraid MS will leave the people who are on 1809 already to their own devices, or just issue a general "ah well, if you're on 1809 already, you'll have to clean install!".

I don't have time for this sh*t. The *one* time I wait with upgrading until it was officially released, and here I am again.

Why can't they just push a new build out on fast ring?

Clintlgm said:

Seems to me that since this issue only happen to some people that they need to isolate why that group of people had the issue fix that issue, the people that happen to are screwed unless they had backups? All the other issues should be able to be fixed with a CU. Once the losing data issue is resolved re-release the upgrade

Agreed, Clint, but how will they isolate only those who had the issue? The code would still be there in 1809 for those who update in the future, and here we would go again . . .

All updates should be standard or we'd really have a mess on our hands.

cereberus said:

What is AK, AR, CA, DE, FL, HI, MI, MN, ND, NV, OR, SD, TX, VT, WA, or WY :-D?

Are you guys across the Pond still using cheques?

Huh cheques no it's called checks. What a weird stupid spelling.
Anyway it might be a holiday here but I just received a package from the USPS and some banks are open too.

It's checks not cheques sounds like a type of food.

reddice said:

It's checks not cheques sounds like a type of food.

Not here it isn't. :) Not if your talking about the paper ones used in leu of money.

Winuser said:

I cashed a check today at my local bank. The other banks were open also.

Sheesh, I don't know what's going on in other places, but we seem to be locked up tighter'n a drum here in Central Arkansas. No banks, and no major businesses open.