Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast/Slow/RP Build 17134.5 - April 27 Insider

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  1.    #400

    So I'm not in the insider program and am on 17133.1. Should I bother manually updating to 17134? Or do you think I'll be able to update via windows update?
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  2.    #401

    bobsagetfullhou said: View Post
    So I'm not in the insider program and am on 17133.1. Should I bother manually updating to 17134? Or do you think I'll be able to update via windows update?
    You will eventually get it through windows update, but joining the release preview ring will get it to you right now.
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  3.    #402

    Force Crash With Keyboard: RCtrl+ScrL x2


    Wynona said: View Post
    I was all prepared to ask the same question, Mike, but reading a bit more carefully, I'm not sure that's what they're talking about.

    So, I have the snippet but decided not to ask the question.

    Did you say prepared!

    Well, I was also able to reproduce the issue (see hours), but I don't remember seeing two folders (default) shown at the same time, at the same place.

    To restore normal behavior, forced crash (imitation of SySRq/Magic Key) to reboot into normal condition.

    Long journey of work on the island of trials and errors.
    Last edited by MikeMecanic; 21 Apr 2018 at 22:16.
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    34 minutes and a couple seconds to install from Windows Update to a working desktop:

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    Forceflow said: View Post
    You will eventually get it through windows update, but joining the release preview ring will get it to you right now.
    No you will not. 17133 is not a release version. It has already had a cumulative update and you only get it if on Insider Programme.
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    WINDOWS 10 Pro x64 builds 17763.348, 18850,18353
       #405

    bobsagetfullhou said: View Post
    So I'm not in the insider program and am on 17133.1. Should I bother manually updating to 17134? Or do you think I'll be able to update via windows update?
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    Let's wait until Tuesday (if it is released that day) to see if this is true or not, personally I think so.
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    LEOPEVA64 said: View Post
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    Let's wait until Tuesday (if it is released that day) to see if this is true or not, personally I think so.
    I left Insider prematurely last timecon 16299.0 and it did not automatically upgrade once 16299.15 came out.

    Anyway if question originator joins Insider on Release Preview he is guaranteed to upgrade whereas it is not certain it will if he/she stays out.

    Anyway 17134 was released to IP yesterday, do why wait?
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 1809 - 17763.134 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
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    Edwin said: View Post
    My 'Copied' then 'Deleted' folders aren't even showing up in the Recycle Bin!

    EDIT: I've got a whack of weird things going on right now though...
    Barman58 said: View Post
    The whole special folders coding system goes back to the later win 3.x and was also in the 9.x systems, I think it it used to be a desktop.ini file but will have to confirm and check if it's still done the same way.
    Ok I've had a bit of time to re-acquaint myself with the Special Folder coding system ...

    It still works using the same System File Desktop.ini which resides in every folder that has special properties, this folder has the Hidden and System Marker set (Showing Hidden Folders will not show these files you need to use a different system) ...

    In Windows Explorer
    Select the View Menu,
    Select Options
    Scroll down to Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
    Uncheck the checkbox
    Accept the warning
    OK out of menu

    This will allow you to see those files marked Hidden and System

    One of these is the Desktop.Ini, which contains the code that makes a special folder special

    When you copy a folder, you copy it's content so whatever the name you give the folder it will "Display" as the coded title . This applies to multiple folders with different names such as those with a Copy of prefix or any other.

    Note   Note
    The actual names of the folders have to follow the accepted rules like any other file of folder, so you cannot have two Pictures folders but two folders Pictures and Copy of Pictures that both contain a Hidden System File called Desktop.Ini, containing the correct code to be the special folder Pictures will display as Pictures


    If you look at these folders with a file utility that does not read the codes then it will show the true name

    Linux live can show these "real" Folder Names, as can windows own Recycle bin which does not read the codes to show which actual folder you have deleted - the copy or the original

    Additional Info
    The desktop is a folder with a Desktop.Ini and as there are a few Desktops - User, Public Etc, we occasionally see the hidden status of one of these special folders glitch to see ghost files on the desktop which cannot be removed easily In this situation you need to find the faulting Folder, (often it's the Desktop assigned to the special Default user ), and hide this (or edit the code in Desktop.Ini in the rogue folder
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  9.    #408

    It is alleged MS are moving away from the silly Spring Creators Update and intend to call this simply the April Update.

    How can they still be stupid?

    You have to say the year as well or else next year you could get a March update and people think the April one is more recent. Worse you could have two April updates being supported.

    The depths of MS's PR stupidity at times is embarrassing.
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  10.    #409

    Barman58 said: View Post
    One of these is the Desktop.Ini, which contains the code that makes a special folder special

    When you copy a folder, you copy it's content so whatever the name you give the folder it will "Display" as the coded title . This applies to multiple folders with different names such as those with a Copy of prefix or any other.
    The place I noticed it was %appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu. @OilerNut suggested desktop.ini yesterday but I mistakenly deleted the wrong one - the one in the root directory not in the directory with the wrong name - so the "issue" persisted. Thanks (and sorry for taking this thread off on a tangent).

    It is odd MS want to fix the display name of a subfolder of a hidden folder (%appdata%) but never mind - I understand now :)

    This works:
    Code:
    C:\Users\Hali>dir /a "%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\desktop*"
     Volume in drive C is Macbook
     Volume Serial Number is 2CB2-BB0C
    
     Directory of C:\Users\Hali\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
    
    21/04/2018  22:27               174 desktop.ini
                   1 File(s)            174 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)  19,932,254,208 bytes free
    
    C:\Users\Hali>dir /a "%appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs - Copy\desktop*"
     Volume in drive C is Macbook
     Volume Serial Number is 2CB2-BB0C
    
     Directory of C:\Users\Hali\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs - Copy
    
    21/04/2018  20:21               264 desktop.ini.bak
                   1 File(s)            264 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)  19,932,897,280 bytes free
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