KB4100375 Windows 10 Insider Release Preview Build 17133.73 - Apr.10 Insider

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  1. Cliff S's Avatar
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       08 Apr 2018 #520

    Well I got rid of one virtual NIC, but one keeps coming back, although not in use(for internet at least).
    But it's fast!

    The one being used is "only" 1Gbps
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    The one NOT being used is 10Gbps
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  2.    08 Apr 2018 #521

    cereberus said: View Post
    The "some settings......." message is nearly always due to a policy being set in Group Policy Editor, or some regedit that has been done. GPE changes are pretty easy to track down, as the GPE says if a policy is set or not.

    Tracking down a regedit though is much harder and practically requires an eidetic memory (unless you are super organised and note down each change).
    During upgrade, some of the regedit changes sometimes get reversed, or keys even removed. This sometimes can even lead to the "some settings......" message being removed.
    Barman58 said: View Post
    Has anyone else got Driver updates disabled - that's what Mine I posted comes from and the learn more specifically states this

    I also have bluetooth back on this system, I had moved the dongle from the back of a desk mounted USB tower, and this had been switched off, It has an autocut off if you remove power whilst still connected to devices, (ie reboot a lot, when upgrading ) Switched it back and good to go :)
    I have nothing configured in Group Policy but I do have driver updates disabled but I am not getting that msg anymore.

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  3. kado897's Avatar
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       08 Apr 2018 #522

    cereberus said: View Post
    The point is that it does an ssd ntfs file system defrag frequently enough that you can never detect it ever being done.

    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman
    Thanks. That explains it quite clearly.
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  4. slicendice's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1809 Build 17763.134 (Branch: RS5 Release Preview)
       08 Apr 2018 #523

    cereberus said: View Post
    The point is that it does an ssd ntfs file system defrag frequently enough that you can never detect it ever being done.

    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman
    Yeah, I believe you. And it all makes sense. The NTFS MFT has it's limits and thus fragments must be moved every now and then so the FS won't crash. I wish NTFS was like BeFS (BeOS File System) which never fragments(at least that is what they claimed). :)
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  5. dencal's Avatar
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       08 Apr 2018 #524

    I think it is a deliberate decision taken by M$ to remove the "some settings" message as it is "AS IS".....ie:- general release in the next couple of days....the message only applies for Insider versions.

    Only Updated to Insider Preview yesterday.....probably final testing before releasing RS4..... hence the lack of message.
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  6. slicendice's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1809 Build 17763.134 (Branch: RS5 Release Preview)
       08 Apr 2018 #525

    I just did a manual check of fragmentation status on my C-drive (SSD) and here are the results:

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17133.1]
    (c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>defrag /a C:
    Microsoft Drive Optimizer
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp.
    
    Invoking analysis on System (C:)...
    
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Post Defragmentation Report:
    
            Volume Information:
                    Volume size                 = 118.48 GB
                    Free space                  = 41.79 GB
                    Total fragmented space      = 42%
                    Largest free space size     = 5.62 GB
    
            Note: File fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics.
    
            It is recommended that you defragment this volume.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>
    Obviously Windows 10 has never defragmented this drive during it's 17months lifecycle. :)
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  7.    08 Apr 2018 #526

    slicendice said: View Post
    I just did a manual check of fragmentation status on my C-drive (SSD) and here are the results:

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17133.1]
    (c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>defrag /a C:
    Microsoft Drive Optimizer
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp.
    
    Invoking analysis on System (C:)...
    
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Post Defragmentation Report:
    
            Volume Information:
                    Volume size                 = 118.48 GB
                    Free space                  = 41.79 GB
                    Total fragmented space      = 42%
                    Largest free space size     = 5.62 GB
    
            Note: File fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics.
    
            It is recommended that you defragment this volume.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>
    Obviously Windows 10 has never defragmented this drive during it's 17months lifecycle. :)
    Maybe you should do what MS asks of you:)
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  8.    08 Apr 2018 #527

    slicendice said: View Post
    I just did a manual check of fragmentation status on my C-drive (SSD) and here are the results:

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17133.1]
    (c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>defrag /a C:
    Microsoft Drive Optimizer
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp.
    
    Invoking analysis on System (C:)...
    
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Post Defragmentation Report:
    
            Volume Information:
                    Volume size                 = 118.48 GB
                    Free space                  = 41.79 GB
                    Total fragmented space      = 42%
                    Largest free space size     = 5.62 GB
    
            Note: File fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics.
    
            It is recommended that you defragment this volume.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>
    Obviously Windows 10 has never defragmented this drive during it's 17months lifecycle. :)
    Physical file fragmentation and NTFS file system fragmentation are different aspects of file fragmentation, so those results may be meaningless i.e. an ssd is tolerant to physical fragmentation, so long as the NTFS file system is managed.
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  9. slicendice's Avatar
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       08 Apr 2018 #528

    Josey Wales said: View Post
    Maybe you should do what MS asks of you:)
    I have MS default settings on. :)

    cereberus said: View Post
    Physical file fragmentation and NTFS file system fragmentation are different aspects of file fragmentation, so those results may be meaningless i.e. an ssd is tolerant to physical fragmentation, so long as the NTFS file system is managed.
    Here are the detailed statistics:
    Code:
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>defrag /a /v C:
    Microsoft Drive Optimizer
    Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp.
    
    Invoking analysis on System (C:)...
    
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Post Defragmentation Report:
    
            Volume Information:
                    Volume size                 = 118.48 GB
                    Cluster size                = 4 KB
                    Used space                  = 77.71 GB
                    Free space                  = 40.77 GB
    
            Fragmentation:
                    Total fragmented space      = 41%
                    Average fragments per file  = 1.28
    
                    Movable files and folders   = 385559
                    Unmovable files and folders = 7
    
            Files:
                    Fragmented files            = 25120
                    Total file fragments        = 103129
    
            Folders:
                    Total folders               = 22622
                    Fragmented folders          = 2804
                    Total folder fragments      = 10445
    
            Free space:
                    Free space count            = 58192
                    Average free space size     = 732.00 KB
                    Largest free space size     = 5.62 GB
    
            Master File Table (MFT):
                    MFT size                    = 755.25 MB
                    MFT record count            = 773375
                    MFT usage                   = 100%
                    Total MFT fragments         = 4
    
            Note: File fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics.
    
            It is recommended that you defragment this volume.
    
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>
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  10. slicendice's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1809 Build 17763.134 (Branch: RS5 Release Preview)
       08 Apr 2018 #529

    Average fragment per file 1.28. That is pretty much nothing. :)

    MFT records is 773375. That is equally so nothing to worry about. :)
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