Windows 10: KB4100375 Windows 10 Insider Release Preview Build 17133.73 - Apr.10 Insider

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    Windows 10 Home 1803 (17134.1)
       03 Apr 2018 #290

    n0mad said: View Post
    How did you do exactly? Every time I try to run MediaCreationTool.exe /Selfhost I receive this weird error: https://is.gd/fMhyKm
    Do not uncompress the xml file. Keep it in "products.cab".
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    WINDOWS 10 Pro x64 builds 17134.191, 17733.1000, 18204.1001.
       03 Apr 2018 #291

    johngalt said: View Post
    Leo,
    What did you do to the test that I cannot see in this post? it is grayed out, and I can only read it when highlighting it (or quoting it to reply)?

    Did you actually use the color gray?
    This is using the Dark Wide theme for the board....
    I used the same letter and the same color when I wrote that text, I didn't do anything special, I don't know why it appears like that.
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  3.    03 Apr 2018 #292

    ap1978 said: View Post
    Do not uncompress the xml file. Keep it in "products.cab".
    Ah! My mistake, thanks! Downloading...
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17134.228 (Branch: RS4 Release Preview)
       03 Apr 2018 #293

    davidsherman13 said: View Post
    I just installed that latest insider build on a Dell laptop. Installation was OK except that installed created a 500 mg. partition which was filled. It appears that installation installed a 500 mg. recovery partition. The contents of the partition were hidden. Is it OK to delete this partition? thanks

    NO it is not.

    Windows 10 - Hard Drives and Partitions - Recovery Partition

    UEFI/GPT-based hard drive partitions - Partition Layout

    BIOS/MBR-based hard drive partitions - Partition Layout
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)
       03 Apr 2018 #294

    Anyone in the know, a question, please...

    Is this the RTM SCU? I just pulled it from MiniDump and made an ISO, just slightly larger in size than last ISO from Insider.

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    Windows 10 Skip Ahead Preview Build 18204
       03 Apr 2018 #295

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Anyone in the know, a question, please...

    Is this the RTM SCU? I just pulled it from MiniDump and made an ISO, just slightly larger in size than last ISO from Insider.

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    That looks like it to me, TC.

    The .1 says it all.
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    WINDOWS 10 Pro x64 builds 17134.191, 17733.1000, 18204.1001.
       03 Apr 2018 #296

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Anyone in the know, a question, please...

    Is this the RTM SCU? I just pulled it from MiniDump and made an ISO, just slightly larger in size than last ISO from Insider.
    It is the build of the slow ring, it has that name in UUP Dump because when Microsoft released it in that ring, it gave it that name, is the same as the rest of the builds that appear there with the number 17133.1, the only thing different is the name.
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    Nowadays it is known that the build 17133.1 is the RTM of SCU so any build with that number is "RTM", and it is equal to the others that have that number, nothing different.
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    WinX Pro x64 IP current
       03 Apr 2018 #297

    LEOPEVA64 said: View Post
    It is the build of the slow ring, it has that name in UUP Dump because when Microsoft released it in that ring, it gave it that name, is the same as the rest of the builds that appear there with the number 17133.1, the only thing different is the name.
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    Nowadays it is known that the build 17133.1 is the RTM of SCU so any build with that number is "RTM", and it is equal to the others that have that number, nothing different.
    But the size and the had files for the original 17133 .ISO that I made and that one I made today are not the same.

    I will redownload the old 133 again and see if it makes the same .ISO as before.
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  9.    03 Apr 2018 #298

    johngalt said: View Post
    That's averaging slightly faster than I get, I'm usually hitting 32 - 35 MBps.

    But my hardware slows me down, in that my system is the following:

    Intel Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3740.62 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

    The hash checks take a bit longer. Added to that I am also downloading the combined packages for all X64 editions at once to make an AIO x64 .ISO when using UUP DUMP.



    Yes, that would affect the DL speed itself.



    CPU utilization will also affect how fast it can check integrity of the files being downloaded. And The way it does it, checking each file as it is still downloading the others, to me, seems a bit slower. If I take the copy of all the SHa-1 Hashes that is at the bottom and save them to a single file, 0.sha1, in the folder where the files are downloaded, and then use Hash Check to verify, it verifies all (usually ~41 files) within seconds (but, of course, that again is a measure of the resources available - the hash check performed by the script in UUP DUMP is, IIRC, relegating a single CPU thread to the hash check, whereas my after download check runs full unthrottled).

    My system is one of those anomalies - extremely fast Internet coupled with rather slow hardware (the only reason it is not any slower is that I am using SSDs on this pseudo SATA III connection that my mobo has).

    My CPU still gives me fits, at times, when it comes to crunching data, though.



    You'd be surprised. It depends upon the actual speeds available. If the speeds are so fast that the CPU cannot keep up, yiou'll see noticeable pauses when swapping from one dl to another using hte same CPU thread - I've seen it on my machine plenty of times.



    Somewhat. Other factors are involved to a lesser degree, of course - those are probably the main factors, plus utilization of resources / availability of free resources.



    1 minute 38 seconds is extremely fast, and it reflects your hardware. My connection is pretty close to yours, but my hardware is woefully behind yours. Here is my test for actual DL speed:

    (I selected the Feature update to Windows 10, version 1803 (17331.1) arm 64, chose English (US) language and left the editions setting at All editions, and started the timer immediately after pressing the link to start downloading:

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    As you can see, my speeds approached what you had (it went over 35 MBps before dropping after it started losing DL threads), but my total time taken was almost 65 seconds more than yours a direct relation to my older hardware.

    If I time using the SHA-1 checksums file using Hash Check, the total time to check all 44 files is much, much faster than the the collective time spent checking the files using the UUP DUMP script:

    Attachment 183337

    I might get SysInternal's Affinity utility, and run the same check again forcing it to use only a single CPU (as best as I can simulate a single thread) and see how long it takes...



    Fast broadband and slow hardware already makes a difference. But fast hardware and slow broadband would be the least noticeable difference, because hte computer is literally twiddling its proverbial thumbs waiting on files to complete downloading before being able to verify anything.

    My opposite situation has, more than once, had Aria 2 had 2-3 files queued for verification because the DL was so fast it got ahead of the verification.



    Pfft - 350+ Mbps is not fast enough? lmfao (neither for me, actually lol)



    Then they are misrepresenting the processes collectively as downloading when it is doing more than just downloading. Mine should take no more than 2 minutes - but it routinely takes up to 15 minutes, and while I understand the need to make this happen without taxing the system resources, I wish they would offer an option to allow it to go full tilt if the user so designates so it can finish much faster.



    That would be nice. I only have 12 GB, so making a RAM disk is not in my cards - but I imaging I could shave at least 30 seconds off via UUP DUMP running all this in a RAM drive versus off my SSDs....



    Actually, I think I might take a stab at it - as seen on my system, since they provide the SHA-1 Hashes, and it takes next to no time when the machine is not otherwise preoccupied with downloading, it would be in my best interest to DL without verification, verify all at once, and re-download any files that had issues....

    Hmmm....



    RAM is still on several orders of magnitude faster than even conventional SSDs. not so much faster on newer machines, but still fast enough. It should make a noticeable difference on all but the fastest machines these days, particularly on machines that are not making use of NVMe drives.
    You are missing point. My pc download uup files to my ssd as fast aa my broadband could handle. It is irrelevant if ram can store it faster than ssd as ssd is not the bottleneck.
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)
       03 Apr 2018 #299

    LEOPEVA64 said: View Post
    It is the build of the slow ring, it has that name in UUP Dump because when Microsoft released it in that ring, it gave it that name, is the same as the rest of the builds that appear there with the number 17133.1, the only thing different is the name.
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    Nowadays it is known that the build 17133.1 is the RTM of SCU so any build with that number is "RTM", and it is equal to the others that have that number, nothing different.
    Thanks, Leo. It was the "Feature Update" that caught my eye. Didn't relate it to Slow Ring cause I was never on it, and probably just bypassed that part of the announcement. I remember in the past, Feature Update was the wording to John Q. Public.
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