Windows 10: Updated Firmware Available for 6th, 7th and 8th Gen. Intel Processors

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  1.    23 Feb 2018 #20

    Yeah there is nothing for my z170 pro gamer motherboard either. Latest BIOS is 3501 which pre dates all this drama. They were supposed to deliver 3601 but I think without any notice from ASUS they didn't release due to the problems the new microcode was causing. So I guess just need to wait on maybe 3701.

    In a strange way I wish my system would not get a new BIOS and then I wouldn't have to worry about updating as there is nothing I can do other than rely on windows updates to patch it in best way possible. But I guess being z170 and a skylake it will get an update to BIOS at some point soon and then knowing it's out there I will feel self compelled to do the BIOS update. even though I dsilike the idea of having to do so and still stand by my assertion that if MS relies on the public to be doing BIOS / firmware updates to protect themselves then it just ain't going to get done. The overwhelming majority will be unaware of this security issue and not even have a clue about BIOS or even it's existence on a PC.
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  2.    23 Feb 2018 #21

    Scottyboy99 said: View Post
    In a strange way I wish my system would not get a new BIOS and then I wouldn't have to worry about updating as there is nothing I can do other than rely on windows updates to patch it in best way possible. But I guess being z170 and a skylake it will get an update to BIOS at some point soon and then knowing it's out there I will feel self compelled to do the BIOS update. even though I dsilike the idea of having to do so and still stand by my assertion that if MS relies on the public to be doing BIOS / firmware updates to protect themselves then it just ain't going to get done. The overwhelming majority will be unaware of this security issue and not even have a clue about BIOS or even it's existence on a PC.

    What's crazy about all this is that a CPU microcode update (and in extension a BIOS update) is not even needed for mitigating the second variant of Spectre. The retpoline fix described in that Intel white paper is being implemented in Linux, but for some reason it's not being implemented in Windows.
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  3.    23 Feb 2018 #22

    Software fixes can easily be software unfixed.....
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  4.    24 Feb 2018 #23

    clam1952 said: View Post
    Software fixes can easily be software unfixed.....

    Protection against Spectre variant 2 can be disabled by making a few minor changes to the Windows registry.
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       24 Feb 2018 #24

    I think it behooves Microsoft to release these patches after adequate testing (maybe a few months) similarly to how the Linux kernel updates microcode. We see that MS has done this in the past. I have four PCs in my household that likely won't get BIOS updates.

    It's unfortunate for them, but if something big like WannaCry happens because of the Spectre issue, a lot of the blame will fall on MS for not better protecting its users.
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  6.    05 Mar 2018 #25

    So basically Skylake CPU firmware was re released without any modifications at least that what I get from reading Intel document
    Lines with “***” were previously recommended to discontinue use. Subsequent testing by Intel has determined that these were unaffected by the stability issues and have been re-released without modification.
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  7.    05 Mar 2018 #26

    I had to uninstall this update as it was causing my AMD graphics driver to crash at the drop of a hat, watching a video on youtube it would crash, play quake live it would crash etc. These crashes only started after installing this update, I even tried removing the graphics driver with DDU in safe mode & installing the latest driver.
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  8.    05 Mar 2018 #27

    Banzi said: View Post
    I had to uninstall this update as it was causing my AMD graphics driver to crash at the drop of a hat, watching a video on youtube it would crash, play quake live it would crash etc. These crashes only started after installing this update, I even tried removing the graphics driver with DDU in safe mode & installing the latest driver.
    ... and this is the problem with software fixes - particularly kernel hooks. AMD will have to update their driver now as I'm sure the original was released based on "bare" kernel calls. Retopoline will work only in Linux as their drivers are kernel driven mostly.
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  •    05 Mar 2018 #28

    Superfly said: View Post
    ... and this is the problem with software fixes - particularly kernel hooks. AMD will have to update their driver now as I'm sure the original was released based on "bare" kernel calls. Retopoline will work only in Linux as their drivers are kernel driven mostly.
    Sorry, should have mentioned this was windows 10 FCU & the latest AMD graphics driver was installed after installing the microcode update.
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  •    05 Mar 2018 #29

    Banzi said: View Post
    Sorry, should have mentioned this was windows 10 FCU & the latest AMD graphics driver was installed after installing the microcode update.
    It's fine.. what I'm sayimg is that the AMD driver is struggling to find it's way as it's been blocked .. they will have to come up with a new driver that can see these blocks and work around them.
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