Windows 10: Cumulative Update KB4073290 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.194 - 64-bit

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  1.    18 Jan 2018 #30

    Further to using update for older Toshibas. THis link provides a list of the models than can be updated:
    Toshiba : Model List Our L300D (PSLC8C-06T01R) is not listed. It's also not listed as suitable for upgrade to Win10. Not sure when this list was issued. Presumably before Fall Creators Update. But MS went ahead with the automatic update on W10 Home anyway. And broke our computer . Later they stopped that, so with new install, W10 is working fine - for now

    Maybe above explains my reluctance to install the update to .194

    We will replace this computer or go back to Win7 once we get back to Canada. Juts need it to work for next 3 months!
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    Windows 10 Pro, 64 bit, 1803, build 17134.48
       18 Jan 2018 #31

    agent99 said:
    Besides, after fighting this since before Christmas, I am just tired and totally fed up with Microsoft
    If you have problems since before Christmas, they are different then mine, which were entirely caused by KB4056892 which was not released until around the 5th of January 2018.
    If you want to just wait it out, I would expect Microsoft to issue their next Cumulative Update on the second Tuesday in February, which should supersede KB4056892 and KB4073290.

    agent99 said:
    At this stage, I don't see any reason to install the update.
    I install these updates because they contain security upgrades but yeah, the chances of being attacked by Specter or Meltdown are slim especially if you have firewalls, anti-virus, etc., running on your computer.

    Dave.
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  3.    18 Jan 2018 #32

    dgordon42 said: View Post
    If you have problems since before Christmas, they are different then mine, which were entirely caused by KB4056892 which was not released until around the 5th of January 2018.
    You are right - the no-boot issue occurred later. My wifes other laptop that still has Vista developed a jumping screen. But worked on an external screen. Skype, Browsers, Dropbox all dropping support for Vista. So moved her stuff starting Christmas to my old Toshiba that already had Win10 installed. Just added her as a user. Took some time getting all her stuff over, then kapoof - all gone when KB4056892 was pushed out.
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    Windows 10 PRO build 1803
       18 Jan 2018 #33

    My System
    Intel i7 4770K 8gb, Sandisk 120gb SSD, nVidia gtx650 ti boost 2gb... + 4tb to games and apps

    before .194 .... sometimes i noted some problem (3x +/-) in boot showing some msg (quickly) that my system was recovered... or some that.

    yesterday, i installed new update .194 and wait that no problem occur again.

    my install is ISO downloaded from MS directly, but is cracked

    before, without updates, not problems.

    lets go wait. now is 1709.16299.194
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  5. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       18 Jan 2018 #34

    agent99 said: View Post
    Further to using update for older Toshibas. THis link provides a list of the models than can be updated:
    Toshiba : Model List Our L300D (PSLC8C-06T01R) is not listed.
    To be strictly accurate, it's a list of 'Toshiba models supported for Windows 10 Fall Creators Update'. In this context 'supported' means the models have been tested and that Win10 drivers are actively being developed for these models.

    My Satellite L750 isn't on the list (nor was it on the original list of 'Toshiba models supported for upgrade to Windows 10' back in 2015). Despite Toshiba's claim that "Models not listed below do not support an upgrade to Windows 10" the 'Get Windows 10' app said my machine was suitable for an upgrade. A rather elderly AMD-based Satellite C650D I recently acquired isn't listed either. Both machines happily run x64 1709 build 16299.192 with the MS-supplied drivers.
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  6.    18 Jan 2018 #35

    Bree said: View Post
    To be strictly accurate, it's a list of 'Toshiba models supported for Windows 10 Fall Creators Update'. In this context 'supported' means the models have been tested and that Win10 drivers are actively being developed for these models.

    My Satellite L750 isn't on the list (nor was it on the original list of 'Toshiba models supported for upgrade to Windows 10' back in 2015). Despite Toshiba's claim that "Models not listed below do not support an upgrade to Windows 10" the 'Get Windows 10' app said my machine was suitable for an upgrade. A rather elderly AMD-based Satellite C650D I recently acquired isn't listed either. Both machines happily run x64 1709 build 16299.192 with the MS-supplied drivers.
    Thanks for that.
    This side of the pond, they say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" . After what we have been through I don't want to touch the Toshiba while it is still working!
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       18 Jan 2018 #36

    agent99 said: View Post
    After what we have been through I don't want to touch the Toshiba while it is still working!
    I just can't resist the temptation to try :) Mind you, I make sure I have made a system image first, then I generally put a spare drive in, restore the image to that, then play as much as I want test the system - safe in the knowledge I can just put the original disk back in when I'm done breaking it my testing is complete.
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  8.    18 Jan 2018 #37

    I have a Toshiba Satellite L755-13K, running Windows Home 64Bit. It was bought with Windows 7.

    It is on neither of the Toshiba lists quoted above but it is currently running Windows 10 ver 1709 (OS Build 16299.192)

    In other words the latest update.

    BEFORE I updated it to Windows 10, (while the free offer was available) I looked at the Tosh site and found that Windows 10 wasn't supported at all!
    So i imaged it (just in case) and....
    AFTER UPDATING to Windows 10, I had Bluetooth and Wireless problems but everything else worked

    I always keep notes of such things (yes I am a Geek!) Here are my abridged notes from the time (in italics) with screenshot of the Device Manager for Bluetooth:

    When running Windows 7 (November 2015), made TOSHIBA Bluetooth Service Automatic - (it was manual) in an attempt to speed it up on start-up - seemed to work or at least caused no problems!

    After update to Win 10 (8-6-2016) and installation of the new Bluetooth Stack, TOSHIBA Bluetooth Service reverted to Manual (Trigger Start)

    Also set to Manual (Trigger Start) are Bluetooth Handsfree Service and Bluetooth Support Service
    This caused all sorts of problems with the mouse being intermittent and dropping off and "stuttering"
    Eventually uninstalled the TOSHIBA Bluetooth Stack, removed all Bluetooth devices from Device Manager and let Windows 10 set it up thus:


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    TOSHIBA Bluetooth Service no longer installed; Bluetooth Handsfree Service and Bluetooth Support Service, are set to Manual (Trigger Start) and will run as necessary.

    Therefore now using Windows 10 to find and pair with Bluetooth Devices successfully.

    The following Toshiba software uninstalled as not useful!

    Bluetooth Stack for Windows (see above)
    Other unrelated "bloatware"


    And for Wireless:

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    So I searched for and downloaded Qualcomm Atheros wireless driver v10.0.0.341 for AR9002WB and Windows 10
    https://www.atheros-drivers.com/down...Windows10.html

    The ones obtained by searching from Windows Update were version 3.0.2. These are a fair bit more recent!


    So basically ignore manufacturers when they say that their computer doesn't support an OS.

    That often means that they have moved on and aren't doing any further development on that model. So it's fair for them to say it isn't supported (by them) - that doesn't automatically mean it won't work!

    As long as either:

    MS provides a driver
    or
    You can determine the individual components and get a driver that way

    Then go for it.

    2 caveats:

    1 If you've got a working system, image it before you start playing testing as @Bree said above. (I swear by Macrium Reflect) That way if all else fails you can revert to how the system was when you began.

    2 If you download drivers like i did for the Qualcomm wireless, KEEP THE DOWNLOADED DRIVER SOMEWHERE SAFE!!!!!
    Otherwise if the time comes that you need to do a complete rebuild and it's no longer available, you are screwed!

    Remember you don't necessarily need the latest drivers - stable ones that work are sometimes better. If you've got working ones you can always try newer ones and revert if the older ones are better than the newer.
    Last edited by VBF; 18 Jan 2018 at 18:00.
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    Windows 10 Home 1803 17134.1
       18 Jan 2018 #38

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  10.    18 Jan 2018 #39

    miklet said: View Post
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    @miklet Google is your friend pal!

    Cumulative Update KB4073291 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.201 - 32-bit - Windows 10 Forums

    EDIT: It's for 32Bit processors only.
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