Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Slow Build 17074.1002 - Jan. 11 Insider

smactilactus · 24 Jan 2018

Kari said:

No, Dona has blocked me, I do not see her tweets, she does not see mine. I have been clearly told that criticizing Windows Insider program is not allowed nor tolerated, that being the reason Dona has blocked me. Read: 500+ positive tweets, 5 tweets with some critics about Insider program = Dona blocks you.

Lol!!! Too hilarious.

wen · 24 Jan 2018

I have been running Insider Build 17025 with NO problems for a while now on my "everyday" personal desktop Computer (Dell XPS-8920). As I posted many times previously, builds 069 and 074 just won't properly install, almost completely finished, they both stop at 99.99 % completion and revert back to previous OS 17025. There definitely is something wrong with these two newer builds !!

As far as Kari's tweets to Dona, I just can't believe this !!

I'm now deathly afraid to Tweet or even leave Feedback in fear I might offend !!

johngalt · 24 Jan 2018

New build.

kevin2017 · 24 Jan 2018

downloading now

johngalt · 24 Jan 2018

Check out @Donasarkar’s Tweet: Dona Sarkar on Twitter:

Brink · 24 Jan 2018

Update: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 17083 for PC Fast+Skip Insider - Windows 10 Forums

Winuser · 24 Jan 2018

Earlier today I found out something interesting about Edge. I went on the Social Security website to fill out some forms. While on their website clicking on any links did nothing. I had to use Firefox. If I wasn't finished I would try Edge again in the 17074 build to see if the problem with Edge is fixed.

smactilactus · 25 Jan 2018

Tony K said:

I'm finding it difficult understanding how you can test software with features turned off. What if a feature borks the software you're testing?
I double dare you.

You don't have to test alllllllllll softwares. I NEVER use Edge or Cortana. It's about testing the features of Windows that you do use, not having to test everything in Windows. How can M$ get a real idea of demographics of their products, if people test what they just don't use? That can give a false sense of how popular a product is, or how well its received. I think Cortana is horrible. Google Home does a much, much, much better job, with much better features. And Cortana slows down your computer, and is filled with spyware from M$.
So it is my belief, that we test what we use. To give a real-life honest analysis to M$. But, that's just my humble opinion.

Tony K · 25 Jan 2018

smactilactus said:

You don't have to test alllllllllll softwares. I NEVER use Edge or Cortana. It's about testing the features of Windows that you do use, not having to test everything in Windows. How can M$ get a real idea of demographics of their products, if people test what they just don't use? That can give a false sense of how popular a product is, or how well its received. I think Cortana is horrible. Google Home does a much, much, much better job, with much better features. And Cortana slows down your computer, and is filled with spyware from M$.
So it is my belief, that we test what we use. To give a real-life honest analysis to M$. But, that's just my humble opinion.

Wow. You took that way out of context. Never said he had to test all the Windows features. Did you take time to read all the posts between John and I on the subject at hand?

Thanks for your “real-life honest analysis” and “humble opinion”, but how is it that you know what Cortana does or does not do to my system or anyone else’s for that matter? Also, you seem to know all about a feature you say you never use. I find that quite amusing.

Oh, yes by all means, I agree. Google never spies.

johngalt · 25 Jan 2018

smactilactus said:

You don't have to test alllllllllll softwares. I NEVER use Edge or Cortana. It's about testing the features of Windows that you do use, not having to test everything in Windows. How can M$ get a real idea of demographics of their products, if people test what they just don't use? That can give a false sense of how popular a product is, or how well its received. I think Cortana is horrible. Google Home does a much, much, much better job, with much better features. And Cortana slows down your computer, and is filled with spyware from M$.
So it is my belief, that we test what we use. To give a real-life honest analysis to M$. But, that's just my humble opinion.

Not at all - but the testing that I am doing, for at least one software, does warrant having different scenarios and items enabled and disabled for testing.

RE: Google Home - as a long time Android user, I can say without question that I've never had a computer that had Google Home integrated like Cortana is. So, making a comparison between the two is a lot like comparing apples to oranges.

I do like Google Assistant, on my phone (currently the Pixel 2 XL 128 GB variant codenamed Taimen), but have very little use for it on my computer as I don't interact with my computer in the same manner as I do with my phone. And I don't have any other Google Home devices. The only other things dealing directly with Google are my newly installed Google Wi-Fi and my Google ChromeCast. But none of these items can reliably be compared to Cortana, The closest is Google Assistant on my phone - but, again, two different devices and 2 very different methods of use and access and interaction.

Tony K said:

Wow. You took that way out of context. Never said he had to test all the Windows features. Did you take time to read all the posts between John and I on the subject at hand?

Thanks for your “real-life honest analysis” and “humble opinion”, but how is it that you know what Cortana does or does not do to my system or anyone else’s for that matter? Also, you seem to know all about a feature you say you never use. I find that quite amusing.

Oh, yes by all means, I agree. Google never spies.

Thanks for sticking up - as to your earlier comment, you're right, in one sense, that I may be missing out on some potential test points. However, I also have to look at it this way:

I test software for use in my very particular scenarios - there are people out there like me that thoroughly disable Cortana as much as possible, and knowing how software software runs and performs in this specific set of circumstances is a good thing.
I am not the only ßeta tester out there - and even if it was an app I had developed myself, I would not be using a single ßeta tester to gather all of my relevant data. No one does.

If I were to consider all of the changes I make from a default installation, I'd have to run a lot of VMs to provide data on every possible permutation based upon those changes from a default installation - NOT happening.

And, most software developers are look more for folks to try to break things - so default installs are usually the last thing they look at, unless something breaks in a default install to begin with....