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  1. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #350

    dalchina said:
    That step configures Windows update. So when Windows update scans for updates, you get an Action Centre notification if there are any. That's how I have mine configured:
    Attachment 172511
    It's making registry changes (as Winaero's tweaker does) or as in the Tutorial here on disabling Windows updates (Option 1 Step 6)
    Enable or Disable Windows Update Automatic Updates in Windows 10 Windows Update Activation Tutorials

    Note- if you want to 'install' something in a zip file that's not intrinsically installable, use NirSofer's zipinstaller.
    http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/zipinst.html
    This creates a folder for the files in the zip file, start menu shortcuts, and an uninstall entry. Convenient.

    @dalchina
    Thanks for the quick response but are we confusing 2 different things?
    The Local Group Policy Editor settings you illustrate, I’ve always had on my PRO machines set from:

    Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update.

    I have it set to “2 = Notify before downloading and installing any updates.”

    Your screenshot looks the same and this does what I expect it to do. As we know, this is an integral part of Windows and is what your linked tutorial explains. I set mine before updating from Win 7 to Win 10, and it has remained set throughout all the various Win 10 versions.

    I was actually asking about the Freeware prog Windows Update Mini Tool and how IT runs when an update is detected to allow me to block individual updates when notified. I have mine set to Notify for all Update Services (see attached screenshot) but I don’t understand how it notifies unless I run the tool manually.

    Cumulative Update KB4056892 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.192-image.png

    Also, Local Group Policy Editor is good for Windows Pro, but I also have a Windows Home system, which is where the MiniTool is hopefully of more use.
    Last edited by VBF; 14 Jan 2018 at 09:39.
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  2. Posts : 42,963
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #351

    I understood what you are asking and my answer follows the pattern posted by @AthanasianCreed

    After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check for updates
    I'm sorry it's insufficiently clear. Hopefully AthanasianCreed will reply to you.

    This may be of interest:
    Windows Update MiniTool: Alternative To Windows Update In Windows 10
    Finally, if you like Windows Update MiniTool, there is another utility called Windows Update Integrator which makes it possible to catch the Windows Update notification popup, meaning when you click on the Windows Update desktop notification it opens up Windows Update MiniTool instead of Windows Update section of Settings app.

    A word of caution. Windows Update MiniTool requires Windows Update service to download updates from Microsoft. So if you have disabled Windows Update, please enable it.
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  3. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #352

    dalchina said:
    I understood what you are asking and my answer follows the pattern posted by @AthanasianCreed

    I'm sorry it's insufficiently clear. Hopefully AthanasianCreed will reply to you.
    OK - sorry - I was being very dense indeed!
    Reading your "Into Windows" link and importantly RE-reading what @AthanasianCreed said in post # 347: "After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup notification that there are updates to install."

    I (mis) interpreted that as meaning that the MiniTool somehow automatically found the updates and issued a popup notification.

    Obviously, one already gets the popup notification from Windows update itself, so its at that point that one runs the MiniTool manually to determine what to do with any offered updates. And I presume, that THEN any updates you mark as "hidden", remain hidden?

    So finally, does this work with Win 10 Home which is where it could be really helpful?I (mis) interpreted that as meaning that the MiniTool somehow automatically found the updates
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  4. Posts : 42,963
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #353



    Windows Update Minitool : Control Automatic Updates in Windows
    You can also control the general behavior of Automatic Updates for Windows – you can set Automatic Updates mode to disabled, notification only, managed by administrator, automatic and scheduled.

    So finally, does this work with Win 10 Home
    - now here's where one user could NOT make Notify work in home (registry mod) - but another could - hence my question... I'm just wondering whether MS has begun to close the option on Notify for Home users... (I don't have anything to try that on).

    Note- Brink's tutorial (Option 2)
    Enable or Disable Windows Update Automatic Updates in Windows 10 Windows Update Activation Tutorials
    seems to support the registry change for Notify for Home editions.
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  5. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #354

    Lol!! :)

    So essentially, it only acts on updates that have currently been offered for download. I was rather hoping for a panacea that blocked all future updates until you allowed them. (I don't want much, do I? )

    Of course one has nearly that functionality in Pro using the Policy Editor we discussed above. And, as I understand it, even adding the integrator still requires one to click on the notification when it appears.

    The only question now hangs over what will happen with Windows Home?

    UPDATE - I seem to have cross-posted with your # 354, however Brink's Tutorial option 2 states:

    This option will not work in Windows 10 Home. Microsoft has prevented disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
    This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.



    Of course, as I advised someone with Home, setting the WiFi or Network connection as "Metered" blocks big downloads anyway! But what will the MiniTool do with Home?
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  6. Posts : 42,963
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #355

    blocked all future updates until you allowed them
    - well, Notify effectively does that. And yes, you have to 'see' the update before you can hide it- but if, say, an upgrade is downloaded it's then too late to hide it.

    Disabling updates is much harder now in Home (the old registry trick doesn't work with Home). Hence the comment in Brink's tutorial- which refers to disabling, not setting Notify as I read it. There is a more arcane method to disable updates in Home.
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  7. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #356

    dalchina said:
    - well, Notify effectively does that. And yes, you have to 'see' the update before you can hide it- but if, say, an upgrade is downloaded it's then too late to hide it.

    Disabling updates is much harder now in Home (the old registry trick doesn't work with Home). Hence the comment in Brink's tutorial- which refers to disabling, not setting Notify as I read it. There is a more arcane method to disable updates in Home.
    By which I presume you mean the "Windows 10 updates troubleshooter tool"?
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  8. Posts : 7,901
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #357

    That looks like a useful tool provided it doesn't corrupt the Windows Update process due to poor design. I've used the method in this tutorial to block specific updates Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
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  9. VBF
    Posts : 602
    Win 10 Pro
       #358

    Steve C said:
    That looks like a useful tool provided it doesn't corrupt the Windows Update process due to poor design. I've used the method in this tutorial to block specific updates Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
    That was what I meant by "Windows 10 updates troubleshooter tool" in #357
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  10. Posts : 42,963
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #359

    VBF said:

    By which I presume you mean the "Windows 10 updates troubleshooter tool"?
    No.. see links from
    How to prevent downloading updates? - Page 2 - Windows 10 Forums
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