Windows 10: Cumulative Update KB4056892 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.192

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  1.    06 Jan 2018 #230

    stuarttunstall said: View Post
    Agree with the above though, I have only ever updated, or had the need to update the BIOS once or twice in all the years of owning a PC... so I dont suppose this one will be done, that is if HP even release an update :)
    Would agree with this.

    There is absolutely no incentive for any motherboard manufacturer to issue updated BIOS for any board that are no longer being made so it's very unlikely to happen unless Intel agree to fund the work required.

    It may actually work out a lot cheaper for Intel to fund the work than the outcome of the pending lawsuits already lodged against them and the many which are sure to follow.
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  2.    06 Jan 2018 #231

    Cannot install KB4056892


    My Dell XPS13 9350 lists KB4056892, installs it and asks for a reboot. During reboot it only says "Restart" on the blue screen (not the usual percent count of the update). After the reboot I get a message that the update could not be installed. The laptop functions normally and still shows build 16299.125 When I open settings / update, it again shows KB4056892 asking for a reboot to finish installation. This continues indefinitely.
    Also tried installing the download (both cumulative and delta) from windows update. Same behaviour.
    Does anyone have a suggestions?
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  3.    06 Jan 2018 #232

    jacobacci said: View Post
    My Dell XPS13 9350 lists KB4056892, installs it and asks for a reboot. During reboot it only says "Restart" on the blue screen (not the usual percent count of the update). After the reboot I get a message that the update could not be installed. The laptop functions normally and still shows build 16299.125 When I open settings / update, it again shows KB4056892 asking for a reboot to finish installation. This continues indefinitely.
    Also tried installing the download (both cumulative and delta) from windows update. Same behaviour.
    Does anyone have a suggestions?
    Could be the anti virus issue as mentioned in this thread... If I read correctly it may still download but will not install if the AV is not compatible and the registry key is present, may be worth seeing if an update to your AV is available

    Stuart..
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  4.    06 Jan 2018 #233

    AntJac said: View Post
    How many people have updated their BIOS? I was always told not to do it if you have no issues and i havent at all as it can go wrong majorly sometimes.
    Itís kinda true/not true. Back in the day, it was a bit more risky. Iíve always updated my BIOS the same way Iíve kept all other software updated on my PC. Never a problem. Often they bring better RAM compatibility and CPU support, with the occasional bug fix. Sometimes theyíll remove features.

    Read the change log before updating. If youíre upgrading your CPU/RAM at some point, itís always a good idea to check if your new stuff is supported with your particular BIOS revision. You donít want to have ti reinstall your old CPU just to update BIOS because it wonít boot with new CPU. Kinda sucks the fun out of the experience:)

    The biggest risk during a BIOS update is a power outage/brown out. Thatíll brick your board. You can avoid that by using a UPS. Everyone should use those. Theyíll save yiour hide one day.
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  5.    06 Jan 2018 #234

    Hi,

    VBF said: View Post
    Thanks to @MartinMDL for responding but I'm still a little dubious about any 3rd party s/w that is designed to modify the BIOS! The likelihood of "bricking" the PC seems all too real.
    Updating the micro code of a CPU does not in any way affect the machine's BIOS/UEFI.
    Still, afaik micro code updates for the current security issues are not available yet a few exceptions notwithstanding.

    Cheers,
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  6.    06 Jan 2018 #235

    youravinalarrrf said: View Post
    Would agree with this.

    There is absolutely no incentive for any motherboard manufacturer to issue updated BIOS for any board that are no longer being made so it's very unlikely to happen unless Intel agree to fund the work required.

    It may actually work out a lot cheaper for Intel to fund the work than the outcome of the pending lawsuits already lodged against them and the many which are sure to follow.
    I think the last time I did a BIOS update was on my old Dell desktop which came with a FREE upgrade from XP to Vista and that was all automated as part of the upgrade process, but that was a CURRENT machine at the time...

    Out of interest I have just checked the HP website, there is a message regarding the issue but as suspected the last BIOS update was last year...

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  7.    06 Jan 2018 #236

    stuarttunstall said: View Post
    Could be the anti virus issue as mentioned in this thread... If I read correctly it may still download but will not install if the AV is not compatible and the registry key is present, may be worth seeing if an update to your AV is available
    Stuart..
    Thanks Stuart. I not using a third party AV. Only Microsoft Defender installed, so the AV should not really be an issue.
    Rudi
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  8.    06 Jan 2018 #237

    youravinalarrrf said: View Post
    Would agree with this.

    There is absolutely no incentive for any motherboard manufacturer to issue updated BIOS for any board that are no longer being made so it's very unlikely to happen unless Intel agree to fund the work required.

    It may actually work out a lot cheaper for Intel to fund the work than the outcome of the pending lawsuits already lodged against them and the many which are sure to follow.
    All this talk of lawsuits is silly. Many items in life have design flaws, and after a reasonable warranty period has expired, there is no legal obligation to retroactively fix things.

    Even if item's flaw is detected in the warranty period, the companies normal obligation is only to inform and take reasonable steps to fix issue. Companies cannot be held for consequential losses except it is proven that the design flaw was deliberately overlooked, and even then it would be difficult to prove.
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  9.    06 Jan 2018 #238

    cereberus said: View Post
    All this talk of lawsuits is silly.
    I would agree entirely but the pending lawsuits have been filed in America .........I'll say no more!
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  10.    06 Jan 2018 #239

    youravinalarrrf said: View Post
    I would agree entirely but the pending lawsuits have been filed in America .........I'll say no more!
    Well American Lawyers are known to be "ambitious" (allegedly!)
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