Windows 10: Cumulative Update KB4056892 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.192

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       05 Jan 2018 #200

    glennc said: View Post
    Hello,
    Quick question, I hope. Last night the computer indicated it needed a restart for the update. I did so and it seemed to restart and install. All the please wait and 1 of 2 stuff. After I went to Update History an it indicated that KB4056892 had failed to install. I ran an update check and it indicated no new updates. Ran the manual install for this version and while installing it indicated that it was checking for updates and then that I had them all.
    Any way to check if I have the correct updates?
    Thanks for any assistance
    glennc
    Have a look in Control Panel and Goto 'Programs and Features'. Select 'View Installed Updates' at the top left.

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  2.    05 Jan 2018 #201

    glennc said: View Post
    Hello,
    Quick question, I hope. Last night the computer indicated it needed a restart for the update. I did so and it seemed to restart and install. All the please wait and 1 of 2 stuff. After I went to Update History an it indicated that KB4056892 had failed to install. I ran an update check and it indicated no new updates. Ran the manual install for this version and while installing it indicated that it was checking for updates and then that I had them all.
    Any way to check if I have the correct updates?
    Thanks for any assistance
    glennc


    Hello, Besides the other suggestions you can simply see if you are running version 16299.192. If you are then you are fully updated.
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  3.    05 Jan 2018 #202

    vram said: View Post
    Meltdown can’t be fixed with microcode.
    That was what I gleaned as well.. any official links explaining why?
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  4.    05 Jan 2018 #203

    bo elam said: View Post
    Appreciate your response. Thats what I did, all went perfect.

    Bo
    Very glad to hear that you got it all sorted out. :) :)
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  5.    05 Jan 2018 #204

    VBF said: View Post
    Have a care! I too downloaded the cpumcupdate2.1 zip file from the link you quote but all the files in it are dated 2016 as is the article itself, including the Changelog. Is this really recent enough, and how can it be a fix for ALL BIOSs? I'm cautious!!!!!

    Maybe the original poster of the link @MartinMDL might comment please.
    That's just the software used to update the microcode. Its latest version is dated 2016, nothing to worry about. What matters is the actual microcode data, which is provided and updated regularly by Intel and can be downloaded from the first link I shared. Its actual version is dated November, 2017. A more updated package which includes patches for both Meltdown and Spectre is expected to be released shortly, or at least that's what I got from today's Intel's announcement. If an updated BIOS version from your board's manufacturer is unavailable, then software-updating the cpu microcode seems like the only other way to be procted-ish. We just gotta stay tuned and see what happens in the upcoming days..

    vram said: View Post
    Meltdown can’t be fixed with microcode.
    You're probably confusing it with Spectre which is more subtle, affects all cpus, and can definitely not be fixed via a microcode update. Microsoft however strongly recommends this procedure. They clearly state:
    "Customers who only install the Windows January 2018 security updates will not receive the benefit of all known protections against the vulnerabilities. In addition to installing the January security updates, a processor microcode, or firmware, update is required. This should be available through your device manufacturer."
    As per my answer above: if your manufacturer doesn't release an updated BIOS, then a software update looks like the only way to go to be more protected-ish
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  6.    05 Jan 2018 #205

    Hi,

    That's just the software used to update the microcode.
    It's not an easy piece of software to use though. It requires the MC files for both Intel and AMD cpu's and then you have to rename the MC file from Intel so install.bat can find it or else it will throw an error.

    Cheers,
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       05 Jan 2018 #206

    I had problems on one computer with download but when I stopped onedrive refreshing the download began to download and install. Before, it kept telling me it was up to date.
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  8.    05 Jan 2018 #207

    Superfly said: View Post
    That was what I gleaned as well.. any official links explaining why?
    My understanding is that’s it’s impossible because it’s a flaw in the architecture itself.

    If Intel could patch it with microcode, they’d be shouting from the rooftops about it to qwell all the negative press they’re getting right now. Also take into account how long they’ve known

    BUG | But Why Intel? - YouTube

    This problem might be a good case for Conventional CPUs to become like FPGAs.
    Last edited by vram; 05 Jan 2018 at 20:48.
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  9.    05 Jan 2018 #208

    Hi,

    This problem might be a good case for Conventional CPUs to become like FPGAs.
    Not sure how FPGA's would be any more secure.

    Cheers,
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  10.    05 Jan 2018 #209

    FPGAs are a blank slate and can be programmed/reprogrammed into something completely different with an update. They’re like a hardware emulator.

    Field-programmable gate array - Wikipedia

    I don’t think they’re currently advanced enough to be programmed into something like a modern processor though. There are some retro consoles being released that use them for their CPUs. A 6502 is a far cry from an i7 though.

    Perhaps parts of the CPU could be made like an FPGA?

    I’m not a processor engineer so I might just be talking out of my ***. :)
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