Windows 10: Kernel memory leaking Intel processor design flaw

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  1.    03 Jan 2018 #20

    xips said: View Post
    these changes were seeded to beta testers running fast-ring Windows Insider builds in November and December.

    I'm curious if any Insiders are experiencing significant slow downs?

    I didn’t experience a slow down, but I did experience a complete full stop from the very first RS-4 release


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       03 Jan 2018 #21

    johngalt said: View Post
    17025 was released 25 October. It was then released to slow ring 1 Nov. So that is about the right time frame....
    Thanks, John. That's what I thought. I remember having either 040 or 046 updated on my AMD tower and making an ISO via UUPtoISO to install on the Acer. My 040 folder is dated 11/16 and the 046 is 11/22.

    Anyone have Brandon LeBlanc's Insider build list page he made not too long ago? I thought I saved the link, but dang if I can find it or on Insider Corner.

    Never mind. I see bordi just posted it. Thanks.
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  3.    03 Jan 2018 #22

    I will worry about it when I notice the difference in performance. Frankly, it was hard to tell the difference going from Devil's Canyon to Kaby Lake at about the same overclock. I also could not tell the difference when I dropped my overclock by 300MHz when I got rid of my noisy water cooler and went back to a quiet air cooler.
    Now going from SATA SSD to NVME SSD WAS noticeable and there was the huge difference in going from a GTX 1080 to a GTX 1080 Ti in gameplay.
    I wouldn't worry too much over it with both MS and Intel having a strong interest in minimizing the impact. it may take some time to tweak the bug fix tho so the first numbers out may be the worst case numbers which will gradually improve over time. If we fast ring insiders have had the fix applied for months already and no one noticed, I am not surprised
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       03 Jan 2018 #23

    I wonder when Intel first knew of this bug?

    On Nov. 29, Brian Krzanich, the CEO of chip giant Intel (NASDAQ:INTC), reported several transactions in Intel stock in a Form 4 filing with the SEC. ... Krzanich seems to have sold all the shares he could save for those he is required by Intel's corporate bylaws to hold, the impression that I get is that Krzanich doesn't have a ton of faith in the potential for Intel stock to appreciate...
    https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/...-of-stock.aspx
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       03 Jan 2018 #24

    xips said: View Post
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    Seems to be very little difference.
    Most noticeable impact is recorded by repeated writing to SSD (database). Also overclocking benchmarks will have to be revised
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       03 Jan 2018 #25

    xips said: View Post
    Bree said: View Post
    I wonder when Intel first knew of this bug?

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/...-of-stock.aspx
    Maybe he just needed some spending cash for New Yeas Eve (11$ mil)
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  7.    03 Jan 2018 #26

    Well, from a gaming perspective and benchmarking perspective, you aren't likely to see much difference whatsover. Neither gaming or basic rendering tasks are context-switching heavy payloads. It's your enterprise application, and notably cloud architectures (like Google Cloud, Azure and AWS) where a heavy impact could be noticed.
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       03 Jan 2018 #27

    Intel and other technology companies have been made aware of new security research describing software analysis methods that, when used for malicious purposes, have the potential to improperly gather sensitive data from computing devices that are operating as designed. Intel believes these exploits do not have the potential to corrupt, modify or delete data.

    Recent reports that these exploits are caused by a “bug” or a “flaw” and are unique to Intel products are incorrect. Based on the analysis to date, many types of computing devices — with many different vendors’ processors and operating systems — are susceptible to these exploits.

    Intel is committed to product and customer security and is working closely with many other technology companies, including AMD, ARM Holdings and several operating system vendors, to develop an industry-wide approach to resolve this issue promptly and constructively. Intel has begun providing software and firmware updates to mitigate these exploits. Contrary to some reports, any performance impacts are workload-dependent, and, for the average computer user, should not be significant and will be mitigated over time.

    Intel is committed to the industry best practice of responsible disclosure of potential security issues, which is why Intel and other vendors had planned to disclose this issue next week when more software and firmware updates will be available. However, Intel is making this statement today because of the current inaccurate media reports.

    Check with your operating system vendor or system manufacturer and apply any available updates as soon as they are available. Following good security practices that protect against malware in general will also help protect against possible exploitation until updates can be applied.

    Intel believes its products are the most secure in the world and that, with the support of its partners, the current solutions to this issue provide the best possible security for its customers.


    Source: https://newsroom.intel.com/news/inte...arch-findings/
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  9.    03 Jan 2018 #28

    “Check with your operating system vendor or system manufacturer and apply any available updates as soon as they are available. Following good security practices that protect against malware in general will also help protect against possible exploitation until updates can be applied.”

    Does this mean the windows updates or are they also implying people go a step further and apply BIOS updates to their motherboards too? I don’t think the average user is going to go anywhere near a BIOS update. I’ve seen a few systems hosed because of attempted BIOS updates. Hopefully it’ll just be the pushed windows updates that need to be applied.
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  10.    03 Jan 2018 #29

    What’s behind the Intel design flaw forcing numerous patches?
    There's obviously a big problem, but we don't know exactly what.

    What’s behind the Intel design flaw forcing numerous patches? | Ars Technica
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