Windows 10: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 17063 for PC Insider

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    Windows 10 Insider Build 17035 / Ubuntu 17.10
       02 Jan 2018 #500

    johngalt said: View Post
    When I first got 17063 (within a day of release), it did not try to update my nVidia driver because the latest version out there was the same that 17063 installed. However, a few days later, a new version was released.

    With my GAs (GTX 970 + GTX 560 Ti 446 Core) I always tend to use the latest driver directly from nVidia - and most times, the latest IP build tends to overwrite that with an older build (17063 notwithstanding, almost every time an IP upgrade happens the drivers are over-written by older WHQL certified drivers). My issue with the IP builds doing that is that they add in the 3D Vision components which I never use - I don't have the appropriate hardware for it, other than the relevant GAs, so upon a completed IP build upgrade, I go back and install the nVidia drives using the Custom option, selecting clean install and deselecting all the 3D vision components, as well as the GeForce Experience (which is utterly useless to me, since I manually check for drivers and other software updates almost daily).

    I realize that you may not be talking about nVidia drivers, but I am just relating my experiences, especially since I like only particular components installed.

    HTH
    NVidia drivers aren't overwritten to me, but I don't think that it will help me much since I got an old GT 840M GPU. I doubt recent updates would bring something to this old GPU.

    My Intel integrated GPU (HD Graphics 4400 Family) is getting overwritten with an older version of every install. So I was wondering if it would be better to stay with the Windows Update version (since the components are old-ish).

    Another question related to the Driver Updates comes in regards to the Windows Update MiniTool. Have you ever used it? I gave it a chance on my previous Windows installation and it detected a bunch of drivers that weren't by Windows Update and also not mentioned on my laptop provider driver list. I find it weird since this tool supposedly uses the same place to get updates as Windows Update.

    What can you make out of this?
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  2. Posts : 31,349
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 18219
    Thread Starter
       02 Jan 2018 #501

    Update:

    #WindowsInsiders: no new builds today. We'll have more info tomorrow! <3
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  3. Posts : 1,534
    WinX Pro x64 IP current
       02 Jan 2018 #502

    doriandiaconu said: View Post
    NVidia drivers aren't overwritten to me, but I don't think that it will help me much since I got an old GT 840M GPU. I doubt recent updates would bring something to this old GPU.

    My Intel integrated GPU (HD Graphics 4400 Family) is getting overwritten with an older version of every install. So I was wondering if it would be better to stay with the Windows Update version (since the components are old-ish).

    Another question related to the Driver Updates comes in regards to the Windows Update MiniTool. Have you ever used it? I gave it a chance on my previous Windows installation and it detected a bunch of drivers that weren't by Windows Update and also not mentioned on my laptop provider driver list. I find it weird since this tool supposedly uses the same place to get updates as Windows Update.

    What can you make out of this?
    RE: Driver Updates - I'm betting that Windows 10 IP builds are 'detecting' the Intel GA as the primary GA, and thus updating the drivers for it, instead of the 840, because my machine, for whatever odd reason, seems to think that my 560 TI 448 is actually the primary GA - and yet still reverts the driver if I am on something newer than what WU suggests is the current driver.

    Also, wrt your 840, you might still want to manually install the last recommended driver for your M chip from your laptop's OEM support pages - if for no other reason, then do it to get rid of the 3D vision bloatware that WU installs as a part of the IP build upgrades (of course, ignore this advice if WU is not actually installing that stuff on your machine because it is a Mobile chip, or if you do, in fact, make use of the 3D vision stuff).

    Now, re: WU minitool - link? I've never used it, I prefer to keep a copy of the Snappy Driver Installer around (~15 GB for all drivers) but it does a great job of detecting drivers that are outdated on my system, particularly my Marvell chipset drivers (for which the only available ones are from 2011 from eVGA for my mobo, and that chip controls my SATA III ports, which is what my system and main data drives are connected to....)

    Once I take a look at it and see how it works and what it does, I can render a better opinion.

    Brink said: View Post
    Update:

    I figured that - don't think much anyone was in the office yesterday lol.
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    Windows 10 Insider Build 17035 / Ubuntu 17.10
       02 Jan 2018 #503

    johngalt said: View Post
    Now, re: WU minitool - link? I've never used it, I prefer to keep a copy of the Snappy Driver Installer around (~15 GB for all drivers) but it does a great job of detecting drivers that are outdated on my system, particularly my Marvell chipset drivers (for which the only available ones are from 2011 from eVGA for my mobo, and that chip controls my SATA III ports, which is what my system and main data drives are connected to....)
    Download Windows Update MiniTool - MajorGeeks

    The drivers from my laptop provider are ourdated as well. Only the OEM drivers are newer than both WU and the provider.
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  5.    02 Jan 2018 #504

    Brink said: View Post
    Update:



    She lives!!!
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  6. Posts : 38,043
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       02 Jan 2018 #505

    Brink said: View Post
    Update:
    Thanks, Shawn. :)
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  7. Posts : 38,043
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       02 Jan 2018 #506

    Edwin said: View Post
    She lives!!!
    LOL! Does she mean more news about no builds tomorrow?
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  8. Posts : 13,564
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       02 Jan 2018 #507

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    LOL! Does she mean more news about no builds tomorrow?
    She did that for a couple of weeks last time
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  9.    02 Jan 2018 #508

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    LOL! Does she mean more news about no builds tomorrow?
    Precisely that.
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    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       02 Jan 2018 #509

    AndreTen said: View Post
    She did that for a couple of weeks last time
    larc919 said: View Post
    Precisely that.
    It'll come in due time I guess. They have to get through the Sets testing telemetry data to see if they'll include that for all. They may not, though. Plenty of bugs reported to fix as well.

    Also should report that last night as one last thing was to catch up on the news. Edge had no sound. Opened IE to get it. All fine today.
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