Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 17063 for PC Insider

Wynona · 30 Dec 2017

I just finished clean installing Build 17063 and then Firefox . . . Just look at what I found:

Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 17063 for PC-tf.png

Next to the Bottom Left beside the Welcome to Firefox picture.

linw · 30 Dec 2017

Interesting , Wyn!!!

cereberus · 30 Dec 2017

Winuser said:

I didn't say they don't support ISOs. I said they will not support homemade(UUPtoISO)ISOs.

This is pure semantics - MS does not support ANYTHING in Insider versions when it comes down to it.

Even if you called MS Support and said I am struggling to upgrade using official iso (assuming one is available), what help are you going to get? Any advice from these guys will be patchy if they even gave any advice, and probably less informed than guys on this forum.

About the only difference is they would most likely ignore any Feedback based on using uuptoiso isos.

CountMike · 30 Dec 2017

My Store stopped working (No internet) but obviously internet works. Now what ??

johngalt · 30 Dec 2017

CountMike said:

My Store stopped working (No internet) but obviously internet works. Now what ??

Try entering

Code:

wsreset

in a CMD window (I do it in an elevated CMD window - usually within a few minutes it pops open the Store for me.

Edwin · 30 Dec 2017

Well...
I did an In place/Settings Reset within 17025. The manner in which that commenced and progressed looked promising.
After that, it looked as if everything was 'factory defaulted'.

So, I decided to download the 17063 in place upgrade again; the way that commenced and progressed also looked promising.

However, at the 3rd Restart... black screen, blue logo and no progress wheel for 4 or 5 hours!!!

Geez, what is it gonna take!?!?!?

CountMike · 30 Dec 2017

johngalt said:

Try entering

Code:

wsreset

in a CMD window (I do it in an elevated CMD window - usually within a few minutes it pops open the Store for me.

It started it alright but with same result, doesn't recognize it's connected to internet.

Winuser · 30 Dec 2017

cereberus said:

This is pure semantics - MS does not support ANYTHING in Insider versions when it comes down to it.

Even if you called MS Support and said I am struggling to upgrade using official iso (assuming one is available), what help are you going to get? Any advice from these guys will be patchy if they even gave any advice, and probably less informed than guys on this forum.

About the only difference is they would most likely ignore any Feedback based on using uuptoiso isos.

cereberus said:

Well, they do issue ISOs for Slow Ring, so they DO support it. They just do not issue for Fast Ring, presumably because they would need to keep updating it all the time.

So do they support it or not? I have read post stating that MS said they do not support using homemade ISO to upgrade to the latest insider builds. IMHO MS is trying to get us to use the UUP method as this is the way they want to deliver all upgrades now and in the future. MS understands that the UUP method doesn't work for everyone so even though they are OK with us using homemade ISOs they won't support it because it's not the upgrade path they want us to use.

cereberus · 30 Dec 2017

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Winuser said:

So do they support it or not? I have read post stating that MS said they do not support using homemade ISO to upgrade to the latest insider builds. IMHO MS is trying to get us to use the UUP method as this is the way they want to deliver all upgrades now and in the future. MS understands that the UUP method doesn't work for everyone so even though they are OK with us using homemade ISOs they won't support it because it's not the upgrade path they want us to use.

They do not support anything!

Insider versions are effectively supplied on a "caveat emptor" basis.

The statement "MS do not support homemade isos" can only be applied to release versions i.e. if you called MS Support and were having issues upgrading using a home made iso, they would say upgrade by official means or we cannot help you. The statement has no meaning for Insider versions.

At best, a VERY helpful MS Support tech MIGHT go out of his way and try and help you to upgrade an Insider version and would probably say the same if using an unofficial iso.

Of course, if it is a release version, you get an official iso anyway (ignoring those who made one before one was officially released.

larc919 · 30 Dec 2017

cereberus said:

Insider versions are effectively supplied on a "caveat emptor" basis.

True. There are often things we suddenly lose with new versions or things we can't do. There was a recent Macrium update that came with the suggestion of making new recovery media. Neither of my Insider 17063 machines could manage it. My regular FCU machines all could.