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  1. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #11

    Hi there

    please note if you run any OS under a VM on windows using say VMware you can always run its native file system such as EXT4 on a Linux VM by attaching the HDD as a physical VM. You'll need obviously the boot drive of the VM to run a file system supported by windows but a physical drive attached to the VM can run ANY file system supported by that VM's OS whether or not it runs on Windows --and by doing that you will often improve the performance of the VM.

    Cheers
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  2. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
       #12

    You basically can check if other people have been successful with installing MacOSX with certain components (or pre-built pc's or laptops). If your component is not listed, it doesn't mean it's not compatible, it just means that no one has posted a successful install method (there are at least hundreds, if no thousands, of install method combinations. So finding one that works can be extremely difficult). Long story short, it's not easy, and you have to become somewhat of an expert on the subject, or buy a pre-built computer (ex: a Dell with the exact model number of a successful install method), and follow the install method exactly. Either way, you WILL run into problems, and will have to troubleshoot. Better info here: https://www.cleverfiles.com/howto/in...mac-on-pc.html
    Good Luck!
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  3. pparks1's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
       #13

    I'd find a place that sells used Mac laptops or iMac's. Buy one of those and learn a bit about Apple. You get the whole experience this way.
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  4. jimbo45's Avatar
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    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #14

    pparks1 said:
    After having played with Mac OSX in a virtual machine, as well as years ago building a hackintosh using an EFI-X chip, I cannot strongly recommend enough that if you want the Mac experience, just buy a Mac. Look at the Mac refurb site, as well as at Mac Mini's to keep your cost down.
    Hi there.
    agree with this 100% -- Running or even attempting to run Mac software as a VM on say a Windows Host isn't worth it -- as pparks1 says just get a refurbished mac if you want the mac experience. Remember though on a Mac using Parallels you can run satisfactorily Windows as a VM.

    You might find some cheap ones too on places like ebay or computer fairs. Sometimes if you are very lucky offices chuck out stuff so you might be able to get an old one from your local tip or re-cycling centre.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 24
    win7
       #15

    did this a while back, macos 10.12, with a "how to" from techviewer.com. Worked pretty well for a while, backed up my iphone & ipad to itunes in it. Played around with it, etc, etc. Then inexplicably my bluetooth mouse started getting screwy, without disire to fix i struggled along, upgrading to vmware 14 killed it. Not bothered since. Overall experience, meh.
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  6. Golden's Avatar
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       #16

    jimbo45 said:
    Remember though on a Mac using Parallels you can run satisfactorily Windows as a VM.
    A free alternative is run the W10 VM under macOS using VirtualBox. It works very well indeed.
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  7. axe0's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
       #17

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there.
    agree with this 100% -- Running or even attempting to run Mac software as a VM on say a Windows Host isn't worth it -- as pparks1 says just get a refurbished mac if you want the mac experience. Remember though on a Mac using Parallels you can run satisfactorily Windows as a VM.

    You might find some cheap ones too on places like ebay or computer fairs. Sometimes if you are very lucky offices chuck out stuff so you might be able to get an old one from your local tip or re-cycling centre.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    I had to modify VMware to run a OSX VM, after a few hours OSX crashed and I couldn't get it running again nor could I install it again without it crashing.
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  8. Posts : 913
    CP/M
       #18

    There are many reasons to install macos in VM (or to go different way by creating hackintosh), including:
    - self-education
    - trying before buying mac
    - testing co-operation with windows systems (file sharing)
    - running macos-only apps
    etc.

    Of course, gaming and video playing in VM suffers a low FPS although vmware tools (or equivalent) are installed. Nothing unexpected.

    "I found navigating a different GUI, installing software etc a PITA"
    - the main difference in GUI is only one common menu bar which changes according to focused application
    - "installing app" in most cases means copying it from .dmg disk image file to Applications folder
    - you can easily set Applications folder as Start Menu replacement

    "please note if you run any OS under a VM on windows using say VMware you can always run its native file system such as EXT4 on a Linux VM by attaching the HDD as a physical VM. You'll need obviously the boot drive of the VM to run a file system supported by windows but a physical drive attached to the VM can run ANY file system supported by that VM's OS whether or not it runs on Windows --and by doing that you will often improve the performance of the VM."
    - macos is not linux, it does not use ext4 filesystem
    - macos extended journaled filesystem can be created in vmdk (virtual disk) file
    - no need to use physical disk for performance, vmdk file on ssd drive is much better choice
    - no need to have filesystem supported by windows in VM at all
    and so on... :(

    "I had to modify VMware to run a OSX VM, after a few hours OSX crashed and I couldn't get it running again nor could I install it again without it crashing. "
    - to run macos, you have to patch/unlock vmware again after any vmware update.

    In general, there is no problem to run macos in VM if you know what you do. Needed files & further reading:
    vmware unlocker https://github.com/DrDonk/unlocker/archive/master.zip
    macos sierra disk image macOS Sierra 10.12 in One Part - Google Drive
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    installing sierra tutorial How to Install macOS Sierra 10.12 on VMware - Windows 10, 8, 7
    creating highsierra iso HOW TO: Create a bootable High Sierra ISO for VMware - Multi-booting and Virtualisation - InsanelyMac Forum
    installing highsierra Installing macOS High Sierra on VMware Workstation 12.5.7 - Multi-booting and Virtualisation - InsanelyMac Forum
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    Last edited by muchomurka; 10 Feb 2018 at 05:00.
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  9. Posts : 668
    Win 10 pro
       #19

    muchomurka said:
    There are many reasons to install macos in VM (or to go different way by creating hackintosh), including:
    - self-education
    - trying before buying mac
    - testing co-operation with windows systems (file sharing)
    - running macos-only apps
    etc.
    As LMiller7 already stated "installing any Mac OS on non Apple hardware is contrary to Apple's EULA", it is my understanding that apple does not care about your need of self-education, trying, testing, you can add how many reasons you want but you sould not, and do not think you're outsmarting apple doing so, you're just harming yourself.
    I often wonder why so much people waste time illegally hacking proprietary software when there is so much to learn, hack and have fun using FOSS, also with the side benefit to do something useful or good for the people, maybe for the thrill of being an outlaw LOL.
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  10. axe0's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
       #20

    muchomurka said:
    "I had to modify VMware to run a OSX VM, after a few hours OSX crashed and I couldn't get it running again nor could I install it again without it crashing. "
    - to run macos, you have to patch/unlock vmware again after any vmware update.

    In general, there is no problem to run macos in VM if you know what you do. Needed files & further reading
    I'm well aware of unlocking VMware, but like I said the OS crashed too quickly. It's not worth it to reinstall an Apple OS and have it crash very quickly that it complains about the processor all over again.

    Ps. I wasn't aware what I did was against the Apple EULA.
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