1.    08 Mar 2016 #1
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    VMWare VM in Hpyer V


    HI Folks,

    Here is one of those really silly questions. . .,can you use a VM created with VMWare with Hyper V. Just wondering since MS doesn't want Hyper V and VMWare working together on the same OS. . .bummer. . .
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  2.    08 Mar 2016 #2
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    Hi Lee, you could check out this articl: How to Convert Vmware Virtual Machine to HYPER-V | AskME4Tech
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  3.    08 Mar 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    HI Folks,

    Here is one of those really silly questions. . .,can you use a VM created with VMWare with Hyper V. Just wondering since MS doesn't want Hyper V and VMWare working together on the same OS. . .bummer. . .
    It's not that Microsoft doesn't want them working together, it's that both VMWare and Hyper-V use the same Hardware virtualization features of the CPU, and they can only reliably function for one hypervisor at a time.

    Back in the old days, before hardware virtualization, they could run multiple virtualization apps at the same time, but they were not as low level as hypervisors are today.

    But, to answer your question, in the very most recent versions of Hyper-V, they allow virtualization within virtualization, which is called Nested Virtualization. Microsoft has an article about it here:

    Nested Virtualization
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  4.    08 Mar 2016 #4
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    Thanks guys. . .now I have to attempt to put this stroke infested brain into gear and do some reading. . .Darn that is sure gong to be fun. . .
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  5.    08 Mar 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Thanks guys. . .now I have to attempt to put this stroke infested brain into gear and do some reading. . .Darn that is sure gong to be fun. . .
    You will have no issues, nor do you have to read too much . The Microsoft Virtual Machine Converter is easy to use, one simple command in PowerShell.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    But, to answer your question, in the very most recent versions of Hyper-V, they allow virtualization within virtualization, which is called Nested Virtualization. Microsoft has an article about it here:

    Nested Virtualization
    Hyper-V nested virtualization is not an answer in this case; it simply means that you can run Hyper-V virtual machines on another Hyper-V virtual machine.

    For the second level (nested) virtual machines, the host must be a Hyper-V vm. It is not possible to run Hyper-V on a VMware vm or vice versa.
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  6.    09 Mar 2016 #6

    Hi there

    OK not natively - but you can run a W10 VM with HYPER-V enabled ON THE VM !! and then run a VM on that.

    Actually if you are using an SSD or better more than 1 SSD for storing the VM's the response isn't actually as bad as you might think !!! - ensure plenty of RAM and ensure the HOST (Physical machine) isn't too busy. Suggest you have an i5 CPU at least too.

    To avoid confusion here

    1) W10 HOST - HYPER-V NOT enabled. VMware workstation running
    2) W10 VM created on VMWARE with HYPER-V enabled on this VM
    3) Create VM under HYPER-V on the W10 VM created in step 2.

    This type of multi-level VM works better though on HOST Linux machines as the Host OS is much leaner so almost ZERO overhead consumed by the host. Esxi is a great tool for this if you want to play around with this type of stuff.

    A while ago I was using Esxi to create a Virtual W2k3 Server which had two W7 VM's and an XP VM running on it. Performance was fine - and that was in the days before SSD's were even thought of - much less being affordable.

    I know slightly OT but I enclose the reference here for people who might be interested in this sort of stuff. Esxi is FREE too.

    Free VMware vSphere Hypervisor, Free Virtualization (ESXi) | VMware United Kingdom

    Note though Esxi can be quite picky with hardware - google "White box" for hardware Esxi likes - and it's really picky over the network adapter(s) that work on it-- INTEL PRO Nic's always seems to work in my experience on pretty well any OS.

    @Kari - I think running a Windows VM on this and then running a VM on HYPER-V on this Windows VM would be interesting. The nice thing about Esxi is that 99.9% of resources are passed to the VM's -- so this should work almost indistinguishably from a HOST machine running HYPER-V.

    I'll hope tp have a go with this later -- I've got some spare time this week - and plenty of spare machine "Horse Power". My main worry will be getting the Nic to work --I think I've still got a usable Intel PRO 100/1000 card somewhere.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 09 Mar 2016 at 04:20.
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