Windows 10: Configure Win 7 using AIK/ADK on WIn 10? Solved

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  1. Posts : 1,524
    WinX Pro x64 IP current
       09 Feb 2015 #1

    Configure Win 7 using AIK/ADK on WIn 10?


    Working on several projects at one time, and using primarily laptops with not that great support for virtualization, so I am loathe to install a basic Win 7 in virt jsut to be able to use hte Win 7 AIK.

    In a past tutorial, Kari mentioned that the AIK / ADK used to modify the unattend.xml was relevant to the OS that you were using to make the mods. I (think I) know that there is not (yet) a W10 ADK out (or is there?), so would one be able to install the 8.1 ADK on Win10 and use it to make mods to Win 7 installs?
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  2. Posts : 13,972
    Windows 10 Pro
       11 Feb 2015 #2

    Hi John, welcome to Ten Forums :).

    ADK for Win 10 was just released, a preview version of it at least:



    Anyway, you can use any Windows SIM / ADK (starting from WSIM for Windows 7) to create answer file to any version of Windows (7 and later).

    Below some relevant information when preparing a Build 9926 image, from the TenForums tutorial https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...tml#post168194 (BTW, I used ADK for Windows 8.1 Update for video and screenshots in this tutorial).

    Note   Note
     Build 9926 Known Issues:



    Use the Enterprise edition for sysprepping Build 9926, normal Pro edition has a bug and sysprep fails every time (subjective piece of information, based only on my own tests). Free Enterprise download at www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-enterprise-technical-preview?i=1


    1.) Build 9926 Pro edition (from Windows Insider) fails the sysprep every time on vm and two thirds of tries on real machine (my subjective, not automatically factual statistics). This seems to be (comical enough!) due Windows Insider app. Checking the error logs there's various errors every time, but always something common: "Package Microsoft.InsiderHub_1.1.0.400_x64 was installed for a user, but not provisioned for all users". I tried removing the AppxPackage Microsoft.InsiderHub before sysprepping, did not work. Also trying to install offline, vm not connected to network when installing to avoid installing the Hub in the first place did not help, however logical solution that had been.


    2.) Build 9926 Enterprise edition (from TechNet Evaluation Center), sysprep and customizations work every time like a charm as long as you remember to disconnect the computer or vm from the network before starting to install. As soon as you have arrived to desktop in Audit Mode you can reconnect the computer and download ADK and software to be installed. When connected to network while installing, all vm syspreps failed and over half on the real machines. As soon as I tried to install network disconnected, my success rate was 100%.


    3.) You cannot create a catalog file (Part 5 Step 5.6 in this tutorial) using the install.wim file in Build 9926. Use Windows 8.1 Update, or Windows 10 Builds 9841, 9860 or 9879 install.wim. When you have saved your answer file, open it with Notepad and edit the highlighted part in below example answer file, everything between the double quotes. In this example it is wim:X:\Sources\install.wim#Windows 10 Enterprise, meaning that the Windows install media and its install.wim file used for Sysprepping (which as told above is not the same we use for catalog) are located on drive X:.
    Code:
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    <unattend xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:unattend">
        <settings pass="specialize">
            <component name="Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
                <OEMInformation>
                    <Manufacturer>TenForums</Manufacturer>
                    <Model>TF-PC001</Model>
                    <SupportHours>24/7</SupportHours>
                    <SupportPhone>+1 (202) 456-1111</SupportPhone>
                    <SupportURL>TenForums.com</SupportURL>
                </OEMInformation>
                <CopyProfile>true</CopyProfile>
                <ComputerName>TF-PC</ComputerName>
                <OEMName>TenForums</OEMName>
                <RegisteredOrganization>TenForums.com</RegisteredOrganization>
                <RegisteredOwner>Kari</RegisteredOwner>
            </component>
        </settings>
        <cpi:offlineImage cpi:source="wim:X:\Sources\install.wim#Windows 10 Enterprise" xmlns:cpi="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:cpi" />
    </unattend>



    Kari
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  3. Posts : 1,524
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    Thread Starter
       13 Feb 2015 #3

    Awesome. I thought I had already replied to you, Kari,but apparently my reply never posted.

    I Was under the impression is I was using a particular OS I had to install that OS's AIK / ADK. Are you saying I can install any AIK / ADK <= the current Installed OS version?
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  4. Posts : 13,972
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Feb 2015 #4

    In the video at the moment in tutorial, I prepare Windows 10 Build 9926 Enterprise image with Windows ADK for 8.1 Update, using Windows 8.1 Update install.wim to create the catalog in Windows SIM. When doing this you need to edit the answer file of course before sysprepping, to tell that instead of using the catalog file SIM created for sysprepping, the original Windows 10 install.wim should be used.

    I have since attaching the video into the tutorial remade it, this one shows the process of using ADK, SIM and install.wim of another version of Windows even better (IMO :)):



    This video is unlisted because I want to wait the next build, to see if it fixes issues with sysprepping Build 9926. Sysprepping this build of 10 is problematic, for instance the end product has Start Menu, Search and Modern apps disabled. Please read the warning I have added at beginning of the tutorial.
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  5. Posts : 13,972
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Feb 2015 #5

    I forgot to mention this tutorial: Windows 7 Image - Customize in Audit Mode with Sysprep - Windows 7 Help Forums

    If you want to customize a Windows 7 image in your Windows 10, just install Seven in a Hyper-V viertual machine and follow the instructions in the tutorial.
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  6. Posts : 1,524
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    Thread Starter
       13 Feb 2015 #6

    That is actually the tutorial I am using, however I built the image itself on a separate laptop.

    Also: Didn't realize that WIn10 Does Hyper-V natively. Guess I don't need to install VBox / VMWre, eh? :)
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  7. Posts : 13,972
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Feb 2015 #7

    Yes, Hyper-V works and is excellent in Windows 10! I am a fan of it. In case you need: Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10
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  • Posts : 1,524
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    Thread Starter
       16 Feb 2015 #8

    Lol. I had to enable it first as a Windows feature and then it was there.

    BTW, this is the same johngalt from Vistax64 / seven / eight forums. Thanks for the concise and well detailed tuts that you've been making since 7F.
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  • Posts : 13,972
    Windows 10 Pro
       16 Feb 2015 #9

    Good to know you got Hyper-V running.

    I assumed you are the same old geek I know from other Windows forums, thanks for the confirmation :). Did you get your Windows 7 image customized and sysprepped?
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  • Posts : 1,524
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    Thread Starter
       16 Feb 2015 #10

    Decided to restart it using an image built in Hyper-V versus the live one I built on an external machine - that was was coded to a 320 GB HD, and I read that CloneZilla (our imaging solution of choice) would not handle moving images to *smaller* drives.

    So, I'm starting fresh - since I have a fresh and full WSUS update set, plus I have all the required apps, patches, etc. that I need to install on all future machines, and it takes not very long to do so, I figured a new fresh install on a smaller Virtual disk of, say, 50 GB, would be acceptable.

    I did make a CZ backup of the previous image prior to the Sysporep stage anyway, so I can always restore that if this doesn't work.

    Next steps after configuration and sysprepping will be to use my Easy2boot USB drive to boot CZ to the VM and pull that VM down as an deployable CZ image. The3n I get to tet on various hardware to make sure I have all the necessary items configured correctly for mass deployment.

    This is a lot more hectic when it is not for fun but for actual use lol.
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