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  1.    03 Mar 2015 #41

    Quote Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
    I figured you were already aware of that *and* had tried it.

    I'm giving up trying to get Hyper-V running on my desktop at home and shifting over to building my images in a Citrix XenServer VM - better hardware, local access, and I can access it from home, too....
    Hi there

    running Citrix though is a COMMECIAL product - but there is OPEN SOURCE equivalent XEN SERVER based on Citrix which has the advantage of being able to run from a LINUX system --I'll have to agree Hardware management is better BUT sometimes you'll get issues with things like Sound and special hardware attached via USB devices --so it's not always a given that a Windows VM will work exactly as you want --however it's brilliant for all "Office" type stuff. Local access works too --and also if you run it from something like a CENTOS system you've also got the robustness of Red Hat's enterprise products behind you - and all for FREE !!.

    Note the latest version does a lot more though - maybe I'll try it. (I'll use the FREE 6.5 version though - it's based on CITRIX).

    http://www.citrix.com/news/announcem...tware-def.html

    HYPER-V seems IMO an Ms Catch up --- not quite ready for prime time if you need your VM's to do anything out of the ordinary.

    VMWARE though for typical users who aren't experienced a lot with VM's is still the easiest method of running quite complex VM's decently and it runs on both Linux AND windows so the same VM can run on EITHER system without change --just open the vmx file on EITHER system. It certainly has better USB support (including USB3), 3D graphics and the latest versions of PLAYER and WORKSTATION now have dynamic memory management so RAM is used only when the VM needs it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 03 Mar 2015 at 03:36.
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  2.    10 Mar 2015 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    running Citrix though is a COMMECIAL product - but there is OPEN SOURCE equivalent XEN SERVER based on Citrix which has the advantage of being able to run from a LINUX system --I'll have to agree Hardware management is better BUT sometimes you'll get issues with things like Sound and special hardware attached via USB devices --so it's not always a given that a Windows VM will work exactly as you want --however it's brilliant for all "Office" type stuff. Local access works too --and also if you run it from something like a CENTOS system you've also got the robustness of Red Hat's enterprise products behind you - and all for FREE !!.

    Note the latest version does a lot more though - maybe I'll try it. (I'll use the FREE 6.5 version though - it's based on CITRIX).

    http://www.citrix.com/news/announcem...tware-def.html

    HYPER-V seems IMO an Ms Catch up --- not quite ready for prime time if you need your VM's to do anything out of the ordinary.

    VMWARE though for typical users who aren't experienced a lot with VM's is still the easiest method of running quite complex VM's decently and it runs on both Linux AND windows so the same VM can run on EITHER system without change --just open the vmx file on EITHER system. It certainly has better USB support (including USB3), 3D graphics and the latest versions of PLAYER and WORKSTATION now have dynamic memory management so RAM is used only when the VM needs it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    We installed the Free 6.2 about 6 months ago. Still haven't gotten around to updating through all of the patches. We have a File Server, we're building a SQL Server, a Help Desk server, and, eventually, a CloneZilla server for imaging, although I may ixnay that last, as I am able to run it off my USB 3.0 UFD running Easy2Boot - it works beautifully, loading CloneZilla SE and imaging up to 20 machines simultaneously in about 25 - 30 minutes flat.

    I'm building the new image for deployment across multiple platforms, as the PO for the new desktops we want to deploy has been approved, and we should have them in hand within the next couple of weeks, and I plan to have this image ready to deploy within the end of the week.
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  3.    20 Mar 2015 #43
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    Easily upgraded 6.2 to 6.5. Love the ability to directly install hotfixes straight through XenCenter.

    However, now that I have a Fully-developed Win7 VM that has all apps I need, All Updates I care to have installed, and for the life of it get it to recognize my UFD to boot off of to load CloneZilla (or any other device other than CD / DVD) so I can grab an image.

    I'm now trying to see if I can export the VM and import it into the laptop's Hyper-V and see if I can get access to it that way.

    About to say to hell with the whole thing and go back to my original plan - do it on a laptop and just make the partition a lot smaller to accommodate smaller drives.
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  4.    21 Mar 2015 #44
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    OK, Since Build 10041 has dropped (in .ESD format anyway), I'm building native .ISOs of all 4 (Pro / Ent & x86 / x64). I may even post them on my MediaFire account for those who want to DL.

    Using the ESD decryptor file, I'm making only Full Standard ISOs, not any of the compressed .ESD nor the standard ISO.

    I'll check out how well 10041 and Hyper-V works on my system - and I brought my work laptop home as well, so I can have both up and running (hopefully) soon.
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  5.    21 Mar 2015 #45
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    Build 10041 works extremely well on Hyper-V. Sysprep has some glitches but I've found out quite a few workarounds already, been sysprepping since Wednesday evening when I got the 10041 ISO (see this post and the one following it).
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  6.    24 Mar 2015 #46
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    Alas. My home machine, whilst a beast in its own right, simply is not playing nicely with Win 10.

    On Win 7 I was able to run both VMWare and VBox with no issues. But no matter what combination of options I have enabled in the BIOS of that machine, the minute I enable Hyper-V and it starts rebooting, it goes into a boot loop cycle that ends after the third iteration at the recovery options window.

    So, I'm starting to buy newer components - starting with mobo, CPU and RAM, and then I'll probably piecemeal it from there into the next Beast - this will be Mark VI.


    It really, really bugs me, though, that a laptop with a setup that, among other apps, Gibson's Securable says *cannot* support virtualization does in Win 10, whereas a machine that I know fully well does support it won't let Win10 boot if Hyper -V is enabled. But I've put too much time into this now and I need a working system again at home - a dinky little Celeron-based laptop is no match for my desktop. And the Inquisition is calling me again....


    Thanks for all your assistance, Kari, Joe, and everyone else - If any one can help me figure out a way to boot a single Citrix XenServer 6.5-based VM from a device other than a DVD and in such a way that I can capture the image to a UFD, that would be great - optimally, I'd like to boot off that UFD *and* capture the image to that UFD (Yes, I have a 128 GB USB 3.0 UFD - space is not the issue).


    Every piece of documentation I have found has made things messier and messier, but has not given me direct access to the UFD when booting from it, or else for some odd reason does not see the UFD is I boot from DVD....
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  7.    24 Mar 2015 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
    If any one can help me figure out a way to boot a single Citrix XenServer 6.5-based VM from a device other than a DVD and in such a way that I can capture the image to a UFD, that would be great - optimally, I'd like to boot off that UFD *and* capture the image to that UFD (Yes, I have a 128 GB USB 3.0 UFD - space is not the issue).

    Every piece of documentation I have found has made things messier and messier, but has not given me direct access to the UFD when booting from it, or else for some odd reason does not see the UFD is I boot from DVD....
    You might get better help starting a new thread asking the specific Citrix question, as Citrix experts may not look at a thread which is ostensibly about AIK/ADK.

    I know nothing about Citrix, but I have had success getting VirtualBox to boot from a VHD file. I think I created a VHD, used Diskpart to format it as if it's a UFD (probably FAT32 as I was using EFI mode) and then copy the bootable files to it. Will Citrix boot from a VHD?
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