Hyper-V! What is the point or the advantage behind using this?

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  1. Posts : 32,229
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #11

    Rhothgar said:
    ...One issue I have is as I upsized in hard drive size I used the previous license every time on the new drive with a clean install so I have a valid Win 7 licence and a valid Win 10 licence but I have a couple of each OS type of drive which I want to save. I can foresee licensing issues maybe.
    Yes, that can be an issue. Each VM has its own unique hardware ID, it won't activate from the host machine's digital licence. When I upgraded my VM from XP>Vista>Win7>Win10 I had to activate the Win7 with a spare W7 key I had before Win10's Setup would let me upgrade from W7>W10. This was back when you could still get a digital licence when upgrading from 7 to 10, so the W10 VM was activated too.
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  2. Posts : 380
    Windows 10
       #12

    When you run hyper-V you are literally using a format ( pick your poison ) of a drive that was physical. Meaning you can
    1) take a drive with an operating system that is able to function.
    2) make a backup in whichever format ( lets say for idiots sake Macrium reflect but there are other programs/tools )
    3) use a converter to convert that type into something that whatever virtual machine could run. In fact you should be able
    to run that backup using Hyper-V.

    A. Now with (2) the procedure you use could have a greater difference if the operating system will function.

    B. Another issue is that while you might have installed an operation system from a long long time ago, it is possible
    that Hyper-V ( Microsoft brand ) will reject it.

    ...................................................

    A. Anything that runs with hyper-v has the ability to have full GPU support at the expense of mitigation.
    B. It should be able to read any folder on your primary install Networked or not.
    C. Despite the limitations ( rules ) of Microsoft Hyper-V this does not stop you from using Hyper-V with any alternative
    install method. Like I can do a Windows 11 install, browse the install via another Hyper-V program/tool but
    Microsoft Hyper-V will not let me do the installation and might actually block it from functioning correctly.
    I should be able to do any install and give the middle-finger to Microsoft in the process, and run whatever
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  3. Posts : 15,575
    Windows10
       #13

    Daymin said:
    When you run hyper-V you are literally using a format ( pick your poison ) of a drive that was physical. Meaning you can
    1) take a drive with an operating system that is able to function.
    2) make a backup in whichever format ( lets say for idiots sake Macrium reflect but there are other programs/tools )
    3) use a converter to convert that type into something that whatever virtual machine could run. In fact you should be able
    to run that backup using Hyper-V.

    A. Now with (2) the procedure you use could have a greater difference if the operating system will function.

    B. Another issue is that while you might have installed an operation system from a long long time ago, it is possible
    that Hyper-V ( Microsoft brand ) will reject it.

    ...................................................

    A. Anything that runs with hyper-v has the ability to have full GPU support at the expense of mitigation.
    B. It should be able to read any folder on your primary install Networked or not.
    C. Despite the limitations ( rules ) of Microsoft Hyper-V this does not stop you from using Hyper-V with any alternative
    install method. Like I can do a Windows 11 install, browse the install via another Hyper-V program/tool but
    Microsoft Hyper-V will not let me do the installation and might actually block it from functioning correctly.
    I should be able to do any install and give the middle-finger to Microsoft in the process, and run whatever
    So many inaccurate statements, I do not know where to begin.

    Hyper-V does not block anything.

    Read the tenforum tutorials by @Kari and learn how to use it properly.

    I have not found any OS since (and including) XP that cannot be installed easily. Linux is pretty straight forward too. I cannot say about Apple software as it is breaking TOCs doing that.
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  4. Posts : 42
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Bree said:
    Wish I've had checked before I started doing an image.

    I've gone into MR8 this morning and am imaging a disk currently which only has a little time left now so I will let it run.

    Which version of Macrium are you using there? Version 8 doesn't seem like graphical. Once it has finished what is it doing I'll be sure to take another look around. I will write the extract the image to the VHDX and see if it works. If it doesn't, I'll follow your route as it is probably quicker overall.

    Thanks again. Absolutely LOVE this community and its resources.

    EDIT.

    Have spent the past 5 hours trying to create a VHD.

    So I can see one in the folder. I created 3 in that time but deleted previous ones.

    The first gave an error:-

    Hyper-V! What is the point or the advantage behind using this?-error-connecting-vhdx.png

    Then I managed to do one via Macrium BUT NOT using the method I can see in your screenshot:-

    The one via Macium used viBoot and worked but ideally I'd like not to be spending an annual fee accessing my own data when there are other ways of creating it.

    So I went into Disk Management and created one there.

    It took forever and a day. It appeared in File Explorer and then didn't appear in Hyper-V. I had used Create VHD option. It appears as Disk 5.

    Hyper-V! What is the point or the advantage behind using this?-error-finding-virtual-machine.png

    Finally, I went then into Hyper-V and could see any way to actually connect it. It simply wouldn't appear.

    So I "think" that I used Hard Disk under New in Actions Menu, VHD Format, Fixed Size ( and set that to 448GB for a 446Gb hard drive), copy the contents of the specified virtual hard disk (maybe I should have specified copy the contents of the specified hard disk?).

    Here is the file it created:-

    Hyper-V! What is the point or the advantage behind using this?-vhd-file.png

    I'm now moving away from the PC for a while to actually do something productive instead.

    I've left it running using "copy the contents of the specified hard disk" option instead. It looks as though it is going to end up the same size. Might delete the former one it created to give it space to hopefully work quicker...

    Hyper-V! What is the point or the advantage behind using this?-vhd-file-2.png
    Last edited by Rhothgar; 09 Jun 2024 at 11:06.
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  5. Posts : 380
    Windows 10
       #15

    All of these installed OS I am bringing in from MR are all installs from other computers and non of them are activated.
    Just letting you know that. Because I know the moment you activate a Windows it becomes impossible ( I know somebody is going to correct me ) to move it from one piece of hardware to another.

    ..................

    Well it looks like 7.2

    Prior to that MR could convert the backup you create to a variety of formats. However that was limited and eliminated from later versions of the program ( Like the one I am using ). The option is there but it is blotted out. I searched for the MR converter stand alone but it seems it is limited in file size. MR explicitly advised to use Starwind V2V to convert the format.

    In MR I able to make a backup and then lood it in viboot. The settings should be able to do this. I am not sure but you might have to enable extra settings inside of your BIOS / UEFI to do this.. I know there are at least three settings that might have to be turned on.

    So far all my Windows 10 installs loads within Hyper-V. Windows 11 install have a problem for some reason, but maybe I should try another install.

    Apple TOS does not care if you install there software on other hardware. They only care if you illegal use any of there software. It really depends on which version of the OS you are using, However previous OS all have time-bombs ( like with the flash ). Meaning you have to do tricks just to get various software to run and install. VMware has the option built into it, but not all the pieces are there. You have to fix these features via various unofficial updates and fixes. Which is the only real hassle. It is the same program but not on Intel-Macs. Intel is Intel. I went through setups and they run just fine. The only reason I have any OSX/MacOS setup is for some of the web-design apps, outside of built in X-tools from earlier releases. Bigger well known applications all have time-bombs. Point being is that I am not going to log into any Apple-Store and burn money there.
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  6. Posts : 32,229
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #16

    Daymin said:
    Well it looks like 7.2

    Prior to that MR could convert the backup you create to a variety of formats. However that was limited and eliminated from later versions of the program ( Like the one I am using ). The option is there but it is blotted out. I searched for the MR converter stand alone but it seems it is limited in file size. MR explicitly advised to use Starwind V2V to convert the format.
    Macrium's standalone imgtovhd.exe utility was last included in Reflect v6.3. They probably dropped it because, starting with Windows 7, there is an easier and more reliable way to convert a .mrimg to a .vhd or .vhdx. Just create a vhd(x) in Disk Management, mount it, then use Reflect to restore the image to it. Macrium document the process here:

    Restore to VHD - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase
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