Hyper-V vs VirtualBox vs VMWare

tfwul · 01 Sep 2023

@Studynxx - please allow me to step in here, as I do not want to start a thread with the very same question.
Up front: I am not an expert.
I bought VMware Workstation Pro quite some time ago and still use it, be it occasionally. The upgrades are costly.
Am using Windows 10 x64 Pro only (no intention to try Linux). Have 2 Windows 10 x64 VM's.

I am considering to make a move to HyperV. Have noticed a few tutorials and a video from @Kari

There are a few things I am not sure of. Bearing in mind Windows 10 x64 as a host and Windows VM's,
there is a Hypervisor Type 1 and Type 2.
I believe VMware Workstation Pro is a type 2 VM(?)

Q1: why choose for either one of them? When to choose for type 2, when is it better to use type 1 ?

Q2: performance wise: in case of type 1, which I believe works 'side-by-side' with the existing Windows, instead of using the existing Windows as host, what is the impact performance wise, for instance, when using the existing Windows and Hypervisor 1 is running. Maybe it doesn't make any difference?

Q3: VMware allows to make a snapshot, which is really nice: after testing some program, one can easily revert to the last good working Windows version. Does HyperVisor 1 also have a snapshot feature?

Q4: Windows licenses: the current VM's are using Windows 10 Pro licenses, which were upgrades from existing, retail (boxed) Windows 8 and 7 licenses. I believe, after upgrading to 10, those 7 and 8 license-codes became null and void(?)
How will this work in case of setting up Hypervisor? Maybe they are linked to my Outlook account and I shouldn't worry, I don't know.

Sorry for all the questions.

Many thanks!

User2468 · 01 Sep 2023

You should have went the free route and got VMware Workstation Player.

There's also QEMU (an emulator) Proxmox and Docker, but you'll need to watch tutorials on YouStupid (YouTube) for Docker...

If your doing server stuff... Apache Guacamole™

tfwul · 01 Sep 2023

F22 Simpilot said:

You should have went the free route and got VMware Workstation Player.

There's also QEMU (an emulator) Proxmox and Docker, but you'll need to watch tutorials on YouStupid (YouTube) for Docker...

If your doing server stuff... Apache Guacamole™

Maybe so, but at the time (talking about 11-12 years ago) in reviews 'they' said VMware Workstation Pro was the best. Paid 200 dollar for it, with the upgrades and all, it is some 975 euro (usd.1060). Actually I should update again - 'to have a Windows 11 compatible'-version, blah blah, but I won't.
Indeed, I 'should have', but didn't. Reason for me to check out Hyper-V, Microsoft's own product, free and maybe even better than 3rd party software(?) Assume HyperVisor Type 1 will use the 'real' graphics card.

User2468 · 02 Sep 2023

Who's "they" and why would you listen to "them?"

Always do research. Check multiple sources on EVERYTHING you're interested in...

Read this: What is a hypervisor?

VMware Player or Pro, it's no different in a lot of respects except for productivity and having other perks.

Extra credit.

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cereberus · 02 Sep 2023

Q1 - hyperv os better for Windows pro+ OSs as it can run in enhanced mode. Most other OSs run in basic mode and have no sound amongst other deficiences)

Simple - if guest OS runs an rdp server (Home does not) hyper-v runs in enhanced mode, its performance is far superior - see posts where I made comparisons!

Q2: If hypervisor is running but no vm being run, performance loss is barely detectable.

Q3: Yes - called checkpoints.

Q4: old w7/w8 licences still work but you do not enter during installation but use change product key after installation.

tfwul · 05 Sep 2023

Sorry for the delay. Many thanks for all the replies. (Still) Busy with some other things.
Going to give it a try one of these days.
Thanks again!

MisterEd · 05 Sep 2023

tfwul said:

Sorry for the delay. Many thanks for all the replies. (Still) Busy with some other things.
Going to give it a try one of these days.
Thanks again!

When you get around to it I suggest you try all three VM programs. That way you can decide for yourself what works best.

Daymin · 18 Sep 2023

About Hypervisors. You have type-1 ( software ) and type-2 ( hardware related ).
When I use anything adb ( what any if not all android instants uses to start, which could also be directed and located within the program/app folder and you point to it ) with something like scrcpy ( to show my android phone ( less then >12 because Android 12 does not allow for scrcpy to work for some reason )) with any android emulation/virtualization software ( Memu or LD player )
causes a blue-screen crash...................

Installing the latest Memu fixes this problem and I no longer get the Blue-screen crash even if I reinstall earlier Memu. Before using earlier Memu I had to manually disable the features and or enable other features in windows. That being said installing LDplayer ( I used scoop via cmd-line, I think there are other ways like wget but sometimes it wants feedback ) demanded me to turn off features before usage, this is why I uninstalled LDplayer.

Sooo..........okay I am recently trying to solve the "Android no GPU problem" in VMWare.

I have Memu. It had 4.0 but now is 9.0. The problem I am facing is that for some reason earlier applications do not run on the 9.0 and just closes out or do not show properly. I found out the settings used is OpenGL ( Android 32 ) rather then
Direct X ( Android 64 ) is causing that problem. However I reverted back to 4.0 ( via install. Memu prevents you from having both a
x64 and x32 version installed at the same time. Meaning you have to reinstall Memu in order for it to function properly based on which variant you have. I am not much for updating. If I could install two installs of Memu I would probably not have this problem and use 32 for 32 and 64 for 64. I even made some custom icons. But apparently no. Memu works right now ( I could install whichever variant and they work and do whatever online I need to do ).

Somebody on the internet using Hyper-v altered the settings in the .vmx file ( or whatever Hyper-V ) uses to enable GPU support inside of Android 9.0 ( recently open-source variant available ). He said you could apply the same settings to Vmware or Vbox.
It is all alien to me, but apparently literally is talking about the .vmx settings ( whatever equal ) that directs the Virtual-machine
to the physical hardware.

Further-more within the start-up environment ( Hyper-V, Vbox, VMware ) of android your able to apply settings via the debugging console. However you need to understand commands and able to use text-editing. It is a lot but simple to script-kitten in.

Further more with the invention of "Termux" ( Linux/Bash Terminal for Android ) you should be able to "sudo apt/pkg/apk( whatever ) install" the GPU fix from within the android environment ( asides for manually installing apps ). The same should work for Linux "Terminal".

Literally put the stuff on git-hub or whatever snap/scoop/choc or Linux installation and boom fix the problem with no GPU on Virtual-machine

Memu ( possibly LDplayer ) are both probably getting around this because they are literally Hyper-V clones variants. This is why earlier versions of Memu will give you the Bluescreen of death and requires you to turn off "Enabled features" before. So later versions do not have this requirement. Memu only issue hijacks your ability to install and use Nova-App ( which makes your Android look more like a regular desktop rather then a Wii load-screen ). I forget but I got around that.

Sooner or later we will be able to have the power of an entire desktop inside something the size of a game-gear

User2468 · 19 Sep 2023

Wtf?! Lol!