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  1. Posts : 200
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    Migrating to new pc and virtualize old pc


    hello everyone,
    I got a new pc and I wanted to "migrate" (do you say that? or clone?) the old pc on the new one.

    The idea that I have based on my knowledge would be to have cloned the disk of the old pc to a vhd or vhdx file in the new pc and have a dual boot on vhd.

    Also I would like to have a second vhd clone that I can use with a virtual machine at the same time as the new pc system.

    I am aware that there is a "sysprep" command that prepares for a cloning on different hardware, besides I have seen that there is also a disk2vhd software that could help.

    But I also noticed that macrium allows you to prepare a backup to be restored to new hardware. BUT I don't know how it works.

    For the virtualization part I have an idea of a "virtual2phisical" software.

    Obviously mine are just ideas that I don't know how to actualize in detail. Is anyone aware of a faster way?

    Do you have any better suggestions for implementing this project?

    Can you help me with the steps to take?

    Thanks,

    Einstein1969
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  2. Posts : 38,318
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Hi, it would help if you specified the two PCs in an appropriate manner considering what you seek to do.

    For example, is the old PC MBR? GPT? UEFI? 32 bits or 64? I.e. how compatible is it with the new one at the most basic levels?
    What O/S is it running?

    In principle, where there is such basic compatibility, it is possible to take a disk from one PC and hope Windows will reconfigure its drivers such that it will boot on the new one.

    However, doing exactly that cannot be recommended, as that would put the only system disk at risk, so cloining or creating a suitable disk image beforehand would be wise.
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  3. Posts : 200
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    Thanks dalchina,

    In fact, the two PCs are different.

    The old pc has these characteristics:

    - UEFI
    - AMD 64
    - 1TB GPT HDD (But busy it will be about 600GB). Here in reality there is already a dual boot but to simplify I would like to pass only the partition with windows 11 and the data partition, in total they will be 50GB.

    The new pc:

    - UEFI
    - INTEL 64
    - 1TB GPT SSD. Here I would like to keep the window 10 system that is there. There are two partitions one of the s.o. of 900GB (but occupied about 50GB) and a data of about 80GB.

    I was thinking not to create a partition in the new pc to host the windows 11 of the old one, but if possible use a virtual VHD disk. But I don't know it's possible, you tell me how you would do it.

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    I also add that in the old pc I have a windows 10/11 home license, in the new one I have a windows 10/11 Pro license, but the latter is not activated yet. I'll only activate it if necessary.


    I would like to resell the old pc as used, and I also wanted to ask how it works for microsoft windows licenses in the new pc. Can I change the license of the windows 11 that is in the old pc once it has been switched to the new one? Can I use license of the new one or do I need to purchase a new license?

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    As for macrium I use the free version and I have just seen that the recovery to new hardware is not included in the license, so I have to use another method.

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    One important thing to add,

    I don't know if this will stop you from migrating or complicate it more.

    When I installed the s.o. on the new pc (it's a hp victus 16) i needed drivers to access the SSD disk.
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  4. Posts : 38,318
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    Thanks, that's much clearer. As there are several issues there from licensing to dual boot and more which others are much more experienced with, now the starting point is better defined it would be better for someone else to respond.

    Licenses are in general transferable in practice, however dual booting adds a potential complication.
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    is it this one:
    $1,249.99 model 16-d0097nr boasts an eight-core, 2.3GHz (4.6GHz turbo) Intel Core i7-11800H processor and 6GB GeForce RTX 3060 GPU. It comes with 16GB of memory and a 512GB NVMe solid-state drive bolstered by 32GB of Intel Optane cache, and its 300-nit IPS screen offers 1,920-by-1,080-pixel resolution and a 144Hz refresh rate.
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  6. Posts : 200
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    yes but it is the d0003sl model which has 1TB SSD, 12 core/thread EDIT 16 thread/cores

    here are the performance tests if you are interested. HP Victus by HP Laptop 16-d0xxx Performance Results - UserBenchmark

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    with a little gpu overclock HP Victus by HP Laptop 16-d0xxx Performance Results - UserBenchmark
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  7. Posts : 27,044
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    einstein1969 said:
    ... I also noticed that macrium allows you to prepare a backup to be restored to new hardware. BUT I don't know how it works.
    Macrium ReDeploy is a paid-for Premium feature, it is run immediately after you have restored the system image to a new machine. You run ReDeploy from the Macrium rescue boot media and it searches for any required drivers.

    But I have never ever found it to be necessary. Windows itself is very good at loading appropriate drivers from its default library once it finds itself running on different hardware.

    I have twice now restored a Macrium image of my System One to a Hyper-V virtual machine by booting the VM from a Macrium rescue ISO and restoring from a recent Macrium image. I did this to test upgrading to the Insider release preview of 1903 (and again for 2004) in advance of my main machine being offered the feature update at the public launch date.

    I have also now restored a system image of my old Legacy bios Intel based main machine's Windows 10 to a new UEFI AMD based one in order to be supported for the upgrade to Windows 11. That too had no trouble when it first booted up in finding the right drivers to use for the new hardware.
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  8. Posts : 200
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    Bree said:
    Macrium ReDeploy is a paid-for Premium feature, it is run immediately after you have restored the system image to a new machine. You run ReDeploy from the Macrium rescue boot media and it searches for any required drivers.

    But I have never ever found it to be necessary. Windows itself is very good at loading appropriate drivers from its default library once it finds itself running on different hardware.

    I have twice now restored a Macrium image of my System One to a Hyper-V virtual machine by booting the VM from a Macrium rescue ISO and restoring from a recent Macrium image. I did this to test upgrading to the Insider release preview of 1903 (and again for 2004) in advance of my main machine being offered the feature update at the public launch date.

    I have also now restored a system image of my old Legacy bios Intel based main machine's Windows 10 to a new UEFI AMD based one in order to be supported for the upgrade to Windows 11. That too had no trouble when it first booted up in finding the right drivers to use for the new hardware.
    I have a question. I have heard of the macrium viboot. Does it have anything to do with this procedure that you did?

    Anyway I have backed up the system partitions + the windows 11 one and a data partition.

    I also tried disk2vhd and tried that too.

    Now, the problem is that the Hiper-v never used it. I would need to understand how I have to move. I understand that I have to do an ISO from the macrium recovery key to be able to boot. Also I will have to create the virtual machine that receives the backup made with macrium. I would need the procedure because I've never done it.

    Instead of the vhd file I created with disk2vhd what do I do with it? Do I throw it?

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    For now, having no indication, I go ahead with attempts.

    I created a 700GB vhdx file with disk manager and mounted it and launched macrium and restored the vhdx disk.

    I also copied the vhdk created with disk2vhdx.

    But I don't know about hyper-v. Do you have any guide I know how to install it?

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    I am trying to activate hyper-v on windows 10 home not activated.

    Code:
    for /f %i in ('dir /b %SystemRoot%\servicing\Packages\*Hyper-V*.mum') do dism /online /norestart /add-package:"%SystemRoot%\servicing\Packages\%i"
    
    Dism /online /enable-feature /featurename:Microsoft-Hyper-V -All /LimitAccess /ALL
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  9. Posts : 38,318
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    But I don't know about hyper-v. Do you have any guide I know how to install it?
    - not available in Home

    From the searchable Tutorial section:
    Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10
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  10. Posts : 200
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    dalchina said:
    - not available in Home

    From the searchable Tutorial section:
    Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10
    Yes I know dalchina but by now I have installed window 10 home, I still can't put the license key of windows 10 pro.

    However now the "hyper-v management console" has appeared in the administrative tools.

    Let's see if it works

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    Migrating to new pc and virtualize old pc-hyper-v.png

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    I have created two different machines for the created vhd discs. The one done with macrium at the boot of the vm the screen remains black.
    For the disk made with disk2vhd this screen appears

    Migrating to new pc and virtualize old pc-hyper-v.png
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