Can you enter a virtual desktop within a virtual desktop ... ?


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    Can you enter a virtual desktop within a virtual desktop ... ?


    Hello

    Just out of interest ...

    Can you log in to a virtual desktop within a virtual desktop within a virtual desktop etc... (disappear down a virtual desktop rabbit hole) ?
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    swayzak said:
    Hello

    Just out of interest ...

    Can you log in to a virtual desktop within a virtual desktop within a virtual desktop etc... (disappear down a virtual desktop rabbit hole) ?
    No because virtual desktops are only a fancy way of managing open apps. You cannot save the status of (say) desktop of one, independent of others (a much requested feature). There is no nesting capability.
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    cereberus said:
    No because virtual desktops are only a fancy way of managing open apps. You cannot save the status of (say) desktop of one, independent of others (a much requested feature). There is no nesting capability.
    We have virtual desktop system for home working.

    So I logged into that from home, I couldn't then log in to another virtual desktop from that virtual desktop ?

    Just having in a psychedelic Friday afternoon mood here :)
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    Not with Virtual Destops, but you can with Remote Desktops.

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    swayzak said:
    We have virtual desktop system for home working.

    So I logged into that from home, I couldn't then log in to another virtual desktop from that virtual desktop ?

    Just having in a psychedelic Friday afternoon mood here :)
    Is there any ambiguity in the first word "No" in my response?
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    I think I might be mixing up virtual & remote desktops.

    We use VMWare, which I think is a virtual desktop ?
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    swayzak said:
    I think I might be mixing up virtual & remote desktops.

    We use VMWare, which I think is a virtual desktop ?
    You are confusing a virtual machine with virtual desktops.

    Virtual desktops just show open apps on host OS separated between different desktops - so you might show a game app in one desktop say, and a Word app in other. So when you flip between virtual desktops, you only see app you are focussing on i.e. screen is not cluttered up with both.

    A virtual machine (vm) is a completely different beast. A vm is an emulation of a pc in its entirety.

    With hyper-v (type 1 hypervisor) you can nest virtual machines i.e. host runs a virtual machine, and that virtual machine can run a virtual machine. However, you can only have three levels - host to vm1 to vm2. Note only Intel cpus can nest vms. AMDs can only run host and a vm.

    VMWare is a type 2 hypervisor,but like all type 2 hypervisors it is limited as above, as it still interface with hardware to some extent (less than type 1 hypervisor).

    It is theoretically to create a vm that would be totally software based, and nest ad infinitum (memory, storage limiting it). However, such a vm would be incredibly slow, and impractical in real terms.
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    cereberus said:
    Is there any ambiguity in the first word "No" in my response?
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    cereberus said:
    You are confusing a virtual machine with virtual desktops.

    Virtual desktops just show open apps on host OS separated between different desktops - so you might show a game app in one desktop say, and a Word app in other. So when you flip between virtual desktops, you only see app you are focussing on i.e. screen is not cluttered up with both.

    A virtual machine (vm) is a completely different beast. A vm is an emulation of a pc in its entirety.

    With hyper-v (type 1 hypervisor) you can nest virtual machines i.e. host runs a virtual machine, and that virtual machine can run a virtual machine. However, you can only have three levels - host to vm1 to vm2. Note only Intel cpus can nest vms. AMDs can only run host and a vm.

    VMWare is a type 2 hypervisor,but like all type 2 hypervisors it is limited as above, as it still interface with hardware to some extent (less than type 1 hypervisor).

    It is theoretically to create a vm that would be totally software based, and nest ad infinitum (memory, storage limiting it). However, such a vm would be incredibly slow, and impractical in real terms.
    AMD CPU's can nest VM's in KVM/QEMU - nesting though has to be enabled via Kernel module (as it does on Intel).

    As far as Windows Hosts are concerned I have no idea but there's no reason purely hardware wise why AMD can't nest VM's.

    Nesting VM's is fine when you want to test things like Esxi and then have a VM running on Esxi for example.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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