Which is Better? Windows Sandbox or Sandboxie?

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    First off, Edge Chromium uses Windows Sandbox regardless of whether you are testing software. The purpose of sandbox technology, or software isolation goes beyond testing.

    Secondly, if a sandboxed process under Sandboxie creates another process, then this other process runs sandboxed regardless of self-extraction and regardless of dynamical code generation.

    Thirdly, if a sandboxed process under Sandboxie has the ability to communicate with another process that is running outside the sandbox, then you could always decide to ensure that this other process is sandboxed too, i.e., as opposed to letting it run outside the sandbox. It also is possible to apply some restrictions, by customizing the sandbox settings to further satisfy your need, and, in addition to this, it also is possible to use multiple sandboxes concurrently─and to customize the settings of each sandbox individually. (You could even decide to use BOTH Sandboxie AND the Windows Sandbox, ALSO concurrently.)

    Finally, it also is possible to run a VM in a sandbox and/or use a sandbox in a VM, also in addition to setting up a separate user account to provide added restrictions. As for various software not working properly when running it sandboxed, like I already explained in your other thread, yes, you can expect that will happen, nothing can ever be perfect, but then, you don't know that it doesn't work unless you've tried it, so things can be very often still worth giving a shot anyway nevertheless. No success? Go buy a separate computer. I will only add that I have used µTorrent 2.2.1 build 25302 under Sandboxie for years, back in the day when Sandboxie was still proprietary and maintained by Invincea. Not because I was stubborn (I am), but because I love sandcastles.
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    hdmi said:
    Finally, it also is possible to run a VM in a sandbox and/or use a sandbox in a VM, also in addition to setting up a separate user account to provide added restrictions. As for various software not working properly when running it sandboxed, like I already explained in your other thread, yes, you can expect that will happen, nothing can ever be perfect, but then, you don't know that it doesn't work unless you've tried it, so things can be very often still worth giving a shot anyway nevertheless. No success? Go buy a separate computer.
    Hi hdmi,

    Hope you read my reply to you on the other thread. I was out very sick. Apologies if I sound repetitive in at least one of my questions below...

    1) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that if one has Core Isolation & Memory Integrity enabled that you dont need a sandbox. Is this true?

    2) After reading many opinions on the subject, I'm still confused about whether or not to use a sandbox and/or VM for the purpose of running 3rd party programs, namely games, that may contain virus. What do you recommend?

    3) Can sandboxing firefox really safeguard garbage that can come from websites?
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    @yahanna -

    Do you understand the difference between a Sandbox and a Seedbox?

    Two different animals.

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    Compumind said:
    @yahanna - Do you understand the difference between a Sandbox and a Seedbox?
    smh
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    yahanna said:
    smh
    Some people don't. That's all.

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    yahanna said:
    1) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that if one has Core Isolation & Memory Integrity enabled that you dont need a sandbox. Is this true?
    No, definitely not true.
    2) After reading many opinions on the subject, I'm still confused about whether or not to use a sandbox and/or VM for the purpose of running 3rd party programs, namely games, that may contain virus. What do you recommend?
    A lot of games don't work (or they don't work properly) when you try to run them that way. Results vary, and they also very often tend to vary depending on which sandbox technology and/or what VM is used to run them like this. So, if going this route, you'll have to experiment to find out for yourself what works and what doesn't. I recommend to try it if you feel up to it, but the easiest alternative choice by far is to just use a separate computer to play games on.
    3) Can sandboxing firefox really safeguard garbage that can come from websites?
    Yes, it can, and, it does, if you use it correctly. Albeit nothing is perfect (like I already said before).
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    hdmi said:

    A lot of games don't work (or they don't work properly) when you try to run them that way. Results vary, and they also very often tend to vary depending on which sandbox technology and/or what VM is used to run them like this. So, if going this route, you'll have to experiment to find out for yourself what works and what doesn't. I recommend to try it if you feel up to it, but the easiest alternative choice by far is to just use a separate computer to play games on.

    Yes, it can, and, it does, if you use it correctly. Albeit nothing is perfect (like I already said before).
    Thank you, hdmi. greatly appreciate the help!
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