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  1. Posts : 234
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       #11

    cereberus said:
    That is actually not true anymore as VB can use HyperV apis. I have tried it and it works but it is SO SLOWWW.

    In the end, it is better to use the bcd trick if you want performance. I always use HyoerV over VB. With a sinple batch file, you can enable HyperV in Windows 10 Home.
    yes I am reading the article now

    Run Hyper-V, VirtualBox and VMware on same Computer

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    MaloK said:
    VMWare has been the best in "Client OS operations" aspects for me, Except, maybe for the troubleshooting and complicated configuration process. but the overall Finished result are far above expectations in my case.
    Thanks for suggesting VMWare player. V16 is a big change for me since I used VMWare from many years. Also Microsoft now allow downloading ready to use images for VM software so I downloaded Win 11 Ent and it run great with 3D acceleration!!. Can not give you rep but thanks.

    As for Hyber-V I enabled it in the boot and once I entered windows 10 I found the windows very slow even Firefox was hanging although I have 3800x CPU with 32G Ram and fast nvme !!
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  2. ClippyBeer's Avatar
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       #12

    Bree said:
    Hyper-V and VirtualBox are quite different in operation and are intended for different purposes.

    Hyper-V is a Type 1 Hypervisor, the advantages of which include that it runs as System and allows a VM to continue running whether you are signed in or not. In fact you can set a Hyper-V VM to start up at boot without anyone needing to sign in to the Host at all. This makes it ideal for running VMs that you intend to be mainly accessed remotely. In Hyper-V all hardware is virtual, and sound is only available if Enhanced Mode is used and the Guest OS is Windows Pro, and even then it can stutter a little.

    VirtualBox is a Type 2 Hypervisor. These have the advantage of being able to give the VM direct access to the Host's hardware, such as the sound card. A disadvantage is that they can require more tweaking to keep them running well, particularly after an upgrade to the 3rd party VM software.
    Thanks for the detailed comparison. The right tool for the right job. If I was running any server-class platform Type 1 would be the preferred method. For legacy OSes with hardware emulation (sound/3D acceleration) Type 2 would be the better choice.

    William40 said:
    But even simple 3D acceleration does not run correctly on virtual box with 3D enabled.
    Supposedly VirtualBox has experimental 3D Hardware acceleration support although I have not personally tested since I already have VMWare Workstation.

    4.5. Hardware-Accelerated Graphics
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  3. MaloK's Avatar
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    Windows 7 Pro
       #13

    It's still in Beta stage at the moment.
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  4. pparks1's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
       #14

    William40 said:
    Hi
    I used virtual box for years and although it need some tweaks to run fast , it run stable but I wanted to ask if Hyper-V can give more advatages ? does Hyper-V has problems with games or will it slow down windows ? I use the virtual machines for testing and development web and windows apps.
    I used Virtualbox for years and it worked great for me. It had better linux support than Hyper-V, and the ability to clone a system as a Linked Clone is far easier and quicker in Virtualbox, and being able to organize the VM's into folders for separating out lab environments is great and sorely missed by me with Hyper-V. Virtualbox can run on Windows 10 Home and Pro.

    I had to switch to Hyper-V as docker desktop and WSL2 have components of HyperV that are required (not Hyper-V itself), but the virtual machine platform and that conflicts with Virtualbox. While virtualbox VM's can run, they run with the green turtle icon and are unusable slow.

    Hyper-V requires Pro or higher versions of Windows (it is possible to force it to run on Home editions, but it's not intended to be available to Home). You can use linked clones with Hyper-V, you just have to use it with Parent Disk and differencing disks.
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  5. cereberus's Avatar
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       #15

    pparks1 said:
    I used Virtualbox for years and it worked great for me. It had better linux support than Hyper-V, and the ability to clone a system as a Linked Clone is far easier and quicker in Virtualbox, and being able to organize the VM's into folders for separating out lab environments is great and sorely missed by me with Hyper-V. Virtualbox can run on Windows 10 Home and Pro.

    I had to switch to Hyper-V as docker desktop and WSL2 have components of HyperV that are required (not Hyper-V itself), but the virtual machine platform and that conflicts with Virtualbox. While virtualbox VM's can run, they run with the green turtle icon and are unusable slow.

    Hyper-V requires Pro or higher versions of Windows (it is possible to force it to run on Home editions, but it's not intended to be available to Home). You can use linked clones with Hyper-V, you just have to use it with Parent Disk and differencing disks.
    Ubuntu can be run in enhanced mode in Hyper-V and with a bit of configuration, you can get sound. Only minor problem is live videos have an small but annoying audio delay. Downloaded videos are less of an isdue as you can alter the lag in VLC or similar.
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  6. jimbo45's Avatar
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    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #16

    Hi folks
    For Windows VM's HYPER-V is currently the most efficient system available.
    For Linux VM's -- it's a toss up really on what you want the Linux VM to do.

    If you can install docker either on the bog standard ubuntu from the wsl or an a separate host Linux system or even a Linux VM yiu can then install a distro of your choice on the WSL (convert to a TAR file via docker --pull distro) and then import the image to WSL --I've posted on how to do it in this section and on W11 Forum.

    Running customised Linux distros on WSL e.g ArchLinux

    The current WSL works very well for Linux --the main problem is seeing if one can get a descent desktop GUI on it.

    With current CPU power, decent RAM sizes and fast SSD's on modern machines using the WSL can give excellent results - I've got some GUI apps working -- am seeing if I can get a full blown GUI desktop -- I believe somebody has got Linux Mint with the MATE gui working so that could be one to try.

    Docker is worth installing for all sorts of reasons in any case.

    @cereberus

    Hope you've got power back on again -- looked pretty grim over there on BBC news a few days ago !!!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. Posts : 234
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    But why hyper-v slow down my windows ? my hardware is good.
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  8. MaloK's Avatar
    Posts : 1,471
    Windows 7 Pro
       #18

    I would not expect Hyper-V getting to the hardware acceleration level of VMware / vSphere anytime soon.

    but, nothing to loose to try:
    6 Hardware Tweaks that will Skyrocket your Hyper-V Performance

    Just a glimpse to the feature sets of both hypervisor and clearly nothing beats VMWare WS for the kind of uses you're doing.
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  9. Posts : 234
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    thanks @MaloK I will use vmware for now.
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  10. cereberus's Avatar
    Posts : 12,904
    Windows10
       #20

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi folks
    For Windows VM's HYPER-V is currently the most efficient system available.
    For Linux VM's -- it's a toss up really on what you want the Linux VM to do.

    If you can install docker either on the bog standard ubuntu from the wsl or an a separate host Linux system or even a Linux VM yiu can then install a distro of your choice on the WSL (convert to a TAR file via docker --pull distro) and then import the image to WSL --I've posted on how to do it in this section and on W11 Forum.

    Running customised Linux distros on WSL e.g ArchLinux

    The current WSL works very well for Linux --the main problem is seeing if one can get a descent desktop GUI on it.

    With current CPU power, decent RAM sizes and fast SSD's on modern machines using the WSL can give excellent results - I've got some GUI apps working -- am seeing if I can get a full blown GUI desktop -- I believe somebody has got Linux Mint with the MATE gui working so that could be one to try.

    Docker is worth installing for all sorts of reasons in any case.

    @cereberus

    Hope you've got power back on again -- looked pretty grim over there on BBC news a few days ago !!!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I seen worse. Spare a thought for the poor guys in Yorkshire stranded in a pub for 3 days. Must have been hell.
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