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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Jul 2016 #11

    I repeat: Hyper-V enhanced mode requires Windows sign in account to have a password set. You can get it occasionally work a while with an account with no password, but it just keeps disconnecting.

    Stubbornly trying to use it without a password is waste of time when the solution is so incredibly simple: set up a password!
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  2. Joined : Sep 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Jul 2016 #12

    Kari said: View Post
    I repeat: Hyper-V enhanced mode requires Windows sign in account to have a password set. You can get it occasionally work a while with an account with no password, but it just keeps disconnecting.

    Stubbornly trying to use it without a password is waste of time when the solution is so incredibly simple: set up a password!
    Yes, but this is not the same issue as RDP without a password, which you stated in your original message.

    RDP does not allow logging in if there is no password. The Enhanced mode problem seems to be a bug, they are two different issues.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Jul 2016 #13

    Mystere said: View Post
    Yes, but this is not the same issue as RDP without a password, which you stated in your original message.

    RDP does not allow logging in if there is no password. The Enhanced mode problem seems to be a bug, they are two different issues.
    Enhanced Mode IS fully based on RDP, build on it. Enhanced mode does not work with user account without password. It is not a bug, it has been like that as long as we've had Hyper-V in desktop versions of Windows.

    Only difference in remote sign in process is that when Enhanced Mode is launched, there's already an existing connection from host to vm, system tries to use the sign-in info from that existing session to create RDP based remote desktop connection (a real no-difference remote desktop connection over vmbus) to remote host (virtual guest) waiting existing currently signed in user to enter the password.

    User must be a local admin on guest OS (remote host), or belong to remote desktop users group. A standard user not in remote users group can in no circumstances use enhanced mode.

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    When a user without password has been added to remote desktop users group, sign in most often works for a while, then Hyper-V starts disconnecting it. I can simply not understand why it is so difficult to understand that it will work perfectly when password is set and you sign in with local admin account.

    Notice that OOBE must be done to use enhanced mode; if you boot to Audit Mode with built-in admin credentials before initial admin user is created, enhanced mode will never work. It will come available after OOBE is finished, a local admin created and user has signed in first time.



    It most definitely is not a bug.
    Last edited by Kari; 25 Jul 2016 at 21:25.
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  4. Joined : Sep 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro
       26 Jul 2016 #14

    You aren't understanding what i'm saying Kari. I understand that Enhanced sessions are based on RDP, however the problem is something different. I am not saying that enhanced sessions aren't based on RDP. So please stop arguing that point.

    If you have a user that does not have a password, and you try to connect to the PC using that user, Remote Desktop does not allow you to log in. At all. You are blocked from logging in. This is a security feature to prevent PC's without accounts with no password from being exposed on the internet.

    On the other hand, when using an Enhanced VM session, you are in fact logged in (You actually get to the desktop) when you have a user without password. However, you are disconnected right away. This is why it is a different issue and the two are unrelated.

    I'm not sure how I can be any more clear on this. They are two fundamentally different behaviors. RDP does not allow remote connections without a password. Enhanced Mode Hyper-V client *DOES* allow the connection without a password, but then you are disconnected afterwards because of the way the client seems to try and reconnect the non-enhanced session.

    This second behavior is a bug. When you connect via an enhanced session, it should not try to reconnect with a non-enhanced session. Or, alternatively, it should not allow the enhanced session to log in at all. Either way, it's a bug.
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