Windows 95 VM Networking help [VBox]

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  1. jbcarreon123's Avatar
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       #21

    I just using ISO creator for now. and VBox for Host to VM and VM to Host things.
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  2. Hopachi's Avatar
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       #22

    jbcarreon123 said:
    I just using ISO creator for now. and VBox for Host to VM and VM to Host things.
    For Vbox Host to VM and back you can also use a VHD disk.
    You make one on the host, not that big, for your transfer files. Format it to fat32 and add it to the VM. There you can copy what you need then power off VM (IDE is not hot-swappable) and on your host you can mount the VHD and get to the files. While this is used on the host, don't power on the VM.
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       #23

    I using FAT(16) not FAT32.

    Also, I'm using Pass-through (Host > VBox > Vmware) because vhd disk format doesn't supported by Vmware and vmdx format doesn't supported by Windows.

    And also I think using USB? but the first version implemented it is Windows 98 SE. Should I upgrade to 98SE? because I don't have a cd key for 98SE.
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    jbcarreon123 said:
    I using FAT(16) not FAT32.

    Also, I'm using Pass-through (Host > VBox > Vmware) because vhd disk format doesn't supported by Vmware and vmdx format doesn't supported by Windows.

    And also I think using USB? but the first version implemented it is Windows 98 SE. Should I upgrade to 98SE? because I don't have a cd key for 98SE.
    @jbcarreon123

    I think W98 is technically "Abandonware" these days so there's a generic key available so just google.

    otherwise search this archive for old isos etc

    Software Library : Free Software : Free Download, Borrow and Streaming : Internet Archive

    For USB on early Windows releases you'll probably have to set USB support at 1.0 or 1.1 in the VM's config file - on VMWare there's a dropdown to select the level of USB support. Now whether todays large HDD's will work on USB 1 is another issue though.

    There's some really Bonkers people out there trying to run Win 98 SE Native on modern hardware -- you could probably follow this guide but on a VM.

    How to install Windows 98SE on a modern PC \
    VOGONS


    Note vhd / vhdx don't have to be supported natively by Windows etc -- when you share a virtual disk from a VM to another machine (real or VM) that machine sees the virtual HDD as a "physical Disk" -- i.e NTFS / FAT32 / Linux file formats etc.

    That's how for example you can create a Win98 Virtual machine residing on an SSD -- those weren't even in the realms of Science Fiction when Win 98 came out.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Hopachi's Avatar
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       #25

    For usb -flash- drives on W95, I used this:
    USB Flash Driver for Windows 95 (OSR 2.1)

    FAT16 ok, but FAT32 is also supported.

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    jbcarreon123 said:
    Also, I'm using Pass-through (Host > VBox > Vmware) because vhd disk format doesn't supported by Vmware and vmdx format doesn't supported by Windows.
    VHD has to be supported by your host.
    VMDK is native to VMWare but also supports VHD.
    VHDX is the format of choice in Windows and Hyper-V but don't use it in VBox / VMWare.

    For VHD you use diskmgmt on your host, create, attach, format..., detach, add to VM...
    How to create and set up a virtual hard disk on Windows 10 | Windows Central
    How to Attach and Copy files from a VHD in Windows 10
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  6. jbcarreon123's Avatar
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       #26

    Hopachi said:
    For usb -flash- drives on W95, I used this:
    USB Flash Driver for Windows 95 (OSR 2.1)

    FAT16 ok, but FAT32 is also supported
    Thanks.

    Hopachi said:
    VHD has to be supported by your host.
    VMDK is native to VMWare but also supports VHD.

    For VHD you use diskmgmt on your host, create, attach, format..., detach, add to VM...
    Is that a Pro feature? Or not?

    jimbo45 said:
    @jbcarreon123

    I think W98 is technically "Abandonware" these days so there's a generic key available so just google.

    otherwise search this archive for old isos etc

    Software Library : Free Software : Free Download, Borrow and Streaming : Internet Archive

    For USB on early Windows releases you'll probably have to set USB support at 1.0 or 1.1 in the VM's config file - on VMWare there's a dropdown to select the level of USB support. Now whether todays large HDD's will work on USB 1 is another issue though.

    There's some really Bonkers people out there trying to run Win 98 SE Native on modern hardware -- you could probably follow this guide but on a VM.

    How to install Windows 98SE on a modern PC \
    VOGONS


    Note vhd / vhdx don't have to be supported natively by Windows etc -- when you share a virtual disk from a VM to another machine (real or VM) that machine sees the virtual HDD as a "physical Disk" -- i.e NTFS / FAT32 / Linux file formats etc.

    That's how for example you can create a Win98 Virtual machine residing on an SSD -- those weren't even in the realms of Science Fiction when Win 98 came out.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Thanks for your information.
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  7. Hopachi's Avatar
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       #27

    jbcarreon123 said:
    Is that a Pro feature? Or not?
    What feature?

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    Disk Management works in all Windows, Home, Pro, ..., it is this what you mean.
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  8. jbcarreon123's Avatar
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       #28

    Hopachi said:
    What feature?

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    Disk Management works in all Windows, Home, Pro, ..., it is this what you mean.
    Do I need an Vmware Workstation Pro to use VHD format?
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  9. Hopachi's Avatar
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       #29

    jbcarreon123 said:
    Do I need an Vmware Workstation Pro to use VHD format?
    Have you tried it?

    I've used it in Player years ago. Unless they've removed it recently.
    Naa, it's been added centuries ago...
    Can I use VHD on VMware? - VMware Technology Network VMTN
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  10. jbcarreon123's Avatar
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       #30

    Hopachi said:
    Have you tried it?

    I've used it in Player years ago.
    Unless they've removed it recently.
    Naa, it's been added centuries ago...
    Can I use VHD on VMware? - VMware Technology Network VMTN
    Thanks.

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    Now, I installed Windows 98SE in my Windows 95 VM. Also installed Windows 2000 Professional in different VM.

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    The problem is the Network share. I can't share to VM to host. I using Vmware drag and drop feature.

    I can now browse the Internet. except this site.
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