creating a VM win7, on win 10 pro i3 gen 9 machine

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  1. Posts : 11,203
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #51

    Hopachi said:
    @jimbo45
    That's the problem indeed and you'll just have to switch to or use what's included.
    Hyper-V does not use SATA. You don't need XP with SATA.
    Simply create a Gen 1 VM, the old type... and it allows you to install anything from Win2k/XP/Vista/7 on IDE drive. Keep it simple.

    That works without problems when you create new VM and install from scratch.
    The problem is when you convert P2V, as the OP case, but in particular for Hyper-V you'll need to move back from SATA to IDE. That way you can convert your VM from other hypervisors to boot properly without BSODs.
    Hi there

    Thanks for the suggestion -

    However installing XP from scratch in my case wouldn't be what I'd want to do -- most of those old programs I'd use on the Windows XP system (and actually using) have long since disappeared from my storage -- and even the vendors are no longer in business so there was no choice other than the P2V method which I did years ago and kept the VM.

    However you can using XP version SP3 with the last Ms update (I think it was around 2015) and nlite the SATA AHCI drivers to slipstream the OS create an installable iso with SATA drivers.

    I tested the XP VM by creating a second Virtual Disk (IDE) and copying the system to it. It wouldn't boot so I decided not to waste any more time on that -- but at least I "had a go".

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #52

    For VM's the built-in SATA included on CD/ISO is no longer relevant, you can switch controllers later. See below.
    It's better if you have it, of course but for virtual hardware is way easier to switch controllers than physically messing with cables on the board.
    You boot with what's included.

    You add the disk controller when possible (VBox, VMWare, QEMU). It's easier for later transits.

    Change OS disk controller:
    All you need to do is add a secondary disk controller while you still boot with the first one.

    For instance if you boot in SATA in KVM/QEMU, add IDE with empty or dummy drive and power on.
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    Driver will be installed when you're on the desktop. Shutdown VM.
    If you now change the boot disk on IDE now or you move your VM to Hyper-V, it will boot. (other platform, other driver)
    This is to avoid those BSODs you get during boot if the disk driver is missing.
    EDIT: I don't recall getting BSOD on all VM transits, it also depends on OS.
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  3. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042)(19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
    Thread Starter
       #53

    Many Thx to the 3 of y'all,

    Fwiw ''Cheers, Jimbo'' (-; I think I've sent 1 text in my life, I rarely carry a cell ph., (I'll buy their tech stocks though).

    I just a carry a red flag on a stick in my van, stick it out the window if I have trouble, it's a universal rule of the road, and you get immediate help...

    You were right though, I was butchering the English language at times.
    Cheers, TS

    I REALLY have no plans to run xp on Hyper-v! I'Il probably get an iso of win 7 sp 1, ( mines not udated), and redo the Hyper-V with that, then mess w/the program.

    I learned what I needed to Re: Hyper-v, ty, again...

    I was up at 5 AM as well, adding my most used commands to the ''run'' box, and disabling some stuff via the group policy editor, and services, to get rid of some pesky errors in the event viewer etc.. pretty sad huh?

    As far as creating windows image backup files, like my best friend told me 32 years ago when he threw a DOS 2.0 machine at me, and all accompanying books, ''look it up''

    I'll mark the thread as solved, soon, I'm sure I still need some more answers...
    ty,
    ts
    aka: Forgive my grammar

    - - - Updated - - -

    I miss Blake Stone and the cartoon Wolfenstein guy, I played those before DOS Box , I still have them on xp, but never play them anymore with all the real life 3rd person shooters...

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes!
    Try that one indeed.

    I thought I mentioned it, it installed no problem from win7 disk, right after I posted the DOS images yesterday, and did custom.
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  4. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #54

    sneauxwolf said:
    Yes!
    Try that one indeed.
    I thought I mentioned it, it installed no problem from win7 disk, right after I posted the DOS images yesterday, and did custom.
    I've seen you got to custom in the end. So I guessed it might installed alright.

    I'm glad you got it working!


    Now that you got it rolling Hyper-V, I don't have anything more to add.
    Enjoy using the VM.
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  5. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042)(19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
    Thread Starter
       #55

    Hopachi said:
    I've seen you got to custom in the end. So I guessed it might installed alright.

    I'm glad you got it working!


    Now that you got it rolling Hyper-V, I don't have anything more to add.
    Enjoy using the VM.
    All games /flying done w/ mouse and k-board...
    I've gotten 4-5 of my legacy games up and running on win 10, 1 to go, Return to castle Wolfenstein... I have like a million hrs. on msft flight sim, every iteration of the game. Adding airports, planes, scenery etc., (25+years, from DOS VERSION TO FSX) not to mention creating the videos,, lotsa editing software, probably obsolete by now.

    Taking off is, easy, landing not so much,
    Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory

    Yours,
    Tommy 7-1-1966

    Lotsa great tunes with those videos, if you look at one 737 600 Seattle 2 Chicago rocks w/ Michael Schenker

    sneauxwolf - YouTube

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  6. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #56

    Nice collection there!
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