creating a VM win7, on win 10 pro i3 gen 9 machine

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  1. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #21

    ts,
    It looks good from the screenshots.
    There is no ISO in DVD drive so the VHD is the one that should have booted...

    So it's clear form the error you got in your so called "DOS" that the VHD isn't bootable.
    How did you create the VHD?

    You would need to fix the boot loader of Win 7 first.

    I asked for the screenshot of the Windows 7 VM.
    Why do you mention XP? Is this VHD actually Win 7 of Win XP?

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    If I understand correctly from the email screenshot is that you got Norton backups of XP and 7 and that you had a dual boot of the two. And you only need Win7 now.

    Well if there is a Win 7 installed there then it should be detectable when you attempt to fix the boot loader. You can do that with an installable image.

    Do you have a Win 7 DVD or ISO image?
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  2. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042)(19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
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       #22

    ty again,

    ''It looks good from the screenshots.
    There is no ISO in DVD drive so the VHD is the one that should have booted...''

    ''I asked for the screenshot of the Windows 7 VM.''

    isn't that what I posted just below your image at 6pm?

    ''So it's clear form the error you got in your so called "DOS" that the VHD isn't bootable.
    How did you create the VHD?''creating a VM win7, on win 10 pro i3 gen 9 machine-dos-error.jpg

    I explained in 2nd post to you that when I create a backup windows image backup does not allow me to separate win 7 and xp, due to dual boot, the boxes next to c win 7 and d xp are greyed out. I can't do win 7 or xp alone, and I thought it would be a problem when I got to point of creating vm...

    When I the backup is done, I have three images, c: win7, d: win xp, and I can add e: data, in the WindowsImageBackup folder.
    Yes I create ghost 15 backups of all 3 drives as well .v2i files / full backups, not incremental. They would also contain exact same files as windows backup, no difference, other then it allows me to choose c ,d, or e. I also have Acronis 2020 retail for this computer win 10. Macrium is on both computers as well, no backups though, Macrium backup of 7/xp computer would have same problem...

    ''If I understand correctly from the email screenshot is that you got Norton backups of XP and 7 and that you had a dual boot of the two. And you only need Win7 now.

    Actually I have tried to figure out how to remove dual boot for years, (Years ago I bought A win7 retail 32/64 BIT and added a hdd to the xp computer, booted with 7 dvd, and installed it on the new drive, without disconnecting my xp drive, thus the dual boot, and now my win7 computer) it allows me to create shortcuts on win 7 to the win xp hdd, and run programs from win 7, that are on xp hdd. I cannot remove the dual boot with msconfig, it only list 7 bootloader.

    ''Well if there is a Win 7 installed there then it should be detectable when you attempt to fix the boot loader''. Installed where, on the win 7/xp computer?

    You can do that with an installable image.'' What's do you mean by installable image?

    Do you have a Win 7 DVD or ISO image? yes, retail/ mine to do with as I please, 1 computer at a time...

    I did try a windows 7 clean install in vm a few days ago, after 5-6 fails, I quit, and figured I'd stay with the 7 image and ask for help here.

    GL deciphering this post (-;{

    ty,
    ts

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    I did try a windows 7 clean install in vm a few days ago, after 5-6 fails trying to using in7 image...

    post from first day with you:
    22 hrs ago

    ps: my windows images are for dual boot win7 and xp, when I create a windows backup, it will not separate c:win7 and d: win xp, I cannot pick just 7.

    The old win 7 computer needs both drives to boot, in other words there are boot folders and files on win 7 and xp, I cannot remove dual boot any typical way, msconfig only lists win 7, bootloader it's the same in advanced options....

    I think if i did widows repair on both drives would do the trick, or even just win 7. easybcd will not remove the dual boot, just configure boot order etc.

    I've thought 4ever the win 7 image with some boot files, and xp with the other may be a problem when I got to this point; creating a vm in hyper-v...
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  3. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #23

    sneauxwolf said:
    You can do that with an installable image.'' What's do you mean by installable image?
    Do you have a Win 7 DVD or ISO image? yes, retail/ mine to do with as I please, 1 computer at a time...
    That's what I meant, the DVD / ISO image. Sorry it was doubled like that.
    Have you tried to boot from DVD / ISO in the VM?
    sneauxwolf said:
    I did try a windows 7 clean install in vm a few days ago, after 5-6 fails, I quit, and figured I'd stay with the 7 image and ask for help here.
    What was the error?
    It is usually easier to install from scratch than fix some image. You just insert the DVD or ISO file in drive in VM and then boot from it.
    Important note: Hyper-V boot menu is very fast, make sure you press any key instantly the moment the VM starts, otherwise you might miss the 'boot from DVD...' option.

    sneauxwolf said:
    I think if i did widows repair on both drives would do the trick, or even just win 7. easybcd will not remove the dual boot, just configure boot order etc.
    Try easybcd or the windows repair in the VM and that should do it.
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  4. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042)(19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
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       #24

    Hopachi said:
    That's what I meant, the DVD / ISO image. Sorry it was doubled like that.
    Have you tried to boot from DVD / ISO in the VM? no, don't i need to go into settings, select ide controller 1 /dvd apply?
    Let's try this first,, how do i set it up in settings?

    What was the error? boot failure. reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device
    It is usually easier to install from scratch than fix some image. You just insert the DVD or ISO file in drive in VM and then boot from it.
    Important note: Hyper-V boot menu is very fast, make sure you press any key instantly the moment the VM starts, otherwise you might miss the 'boot from DVD...' option. you lost me there...


    Try easybcd or the windows repair in the VM and that should do it.
    I don't have easybcd on this computer, regardless it will not edit boot files just boot order, time to display boot menu on startup, etc. I think your posting to many solutions at once...

    can I edit the win7 image to boot?
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  5. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #25

    As I said, you need to boot from the iso or dvd in the vm.

    You browse for the iso file containing the bootable Win7 disk.

    creating a VM win7, on win 10 pro i3 gen 9 machine-win7-iso.png

    Or if you still have the physical disk, you go for the option there below, choose the right drive letter.
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  6. Posts : 2,617
    trying to install win10
       #26

    I explained in 2nd post to you that when I create a backup windows image backup does not allow me to separate win 7 and xp, due to dual boot, the boxes next to c win 7 and d xp are greyed out.
    cmd prompt:

    wbadmin start backup -backupTarget:BackupDestinationVolume -include:VolumesToInclude
    [if more than one volume,separate with a comma]

    e.g

    WBADMIN START BACKUP -backupTarget:f: -include:c:,e:

    What you want to include depends how you have set up your disk. There is no official way to exclude any files/folders from your selected volumes.
    Some 3rd party tools can.
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  7. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042)(19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
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       #27

    regardless, if i use Dos to create image backup, it's still going not going to have all the boot files, it'll just create the same image I have now, 1/2 the boot drivers. ty, for the new info though...

    ''As I said, you need to boot from the iso or dvd in the vm.''
    if i set it up to boot from cd, add dvd drive in settings /ide controller 1 select dvd/ physical cd/dvd drive it boots to windows install, and the install starts, then it says reboot and boot with dvd, , wouldn't that overwrite win 10? or I can select custom install and that brings me to load drivers, none selected. I wouldn't know what drivers it wanted anyway + I'm guessing it would want to install on c:win 10, and I don't think that's where you want me anyway...

    If I SELECT image file under none, it wants me to open file location, users\hyper-v\ etc., it wants an iso file, which my vhd is not, nor is my win7 dvd

    ''You browse for the iso file containing the bootable Win7 disk.''
    when I SELECT 'none like your pic shows, and mine is setup, were back where we started.


    ty again


    ''Or if you still have the physical disk, you go for the option there below, choose the right drive letter''

    You lost me here
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  8. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #28

    No worries, we'll get there someway...
    It seems you don't understand how to insert the dvd / iso in Hyper-V.

    I'll try to be as clear as possible.

    By the looks of it you don't have iso file, the image of a DVD disk is not VHD is ISO.
    But ignore this for now.

    If you have DVD disk inserted on PC, select it like this:
    creating a VM win7, on win 10 pro i3 gen 9 machine-win7-disk.png
    Check This-PC -> get your right DVD drive letter, mine is E:
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  9. Posts : 52
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042)(19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
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       #29

    hi
    I was there, it boots too install windows 7, I hit install, then it loads files, then I get to install now, then it says upgrade or custom(custom wants drivers, / browse, I wouldn't know which ones to choose) . It will not let me take screenshots with install window open so I have to type what bit says...:

    I hit upgrade it says upgrade to a newer version of windows and keep your files settings and programs. the option to upgrade is only available when an existing version of windows is running, next------>

    next gives me:
    the computer started using the windows installation disk. remove the installation disk and restart your computer so that windows starts normally. then insert the installation disk and restart the upgrade. Do not choose custom etc., etc.

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    We/ no one would be doing this software stuff, DOS, figuring out Different OS'S, tips and tricks if we didn't enjoy it, Last night I was going to thank you, and say hyper-v was not what I needed, you explained it would not meet my gaming needs.
    Also I have no need for another version of windows. If your still trying to figure out how to edit the boot of my win7 image cool.
    Please don't make it personal by saying I don't know how to ???.* whatever, I had been there by my third attempt, and back here by my 8th try...
    ty again, and forgive my grammar
    ts

    ''No worries, we'll get there someway...
    It seems you don't understand how to insert the dvd / iso in Hyper-V.''

    Apparently I do , if you read my last post last night, and or my first post to you Friday I clearly stated I had dual boot win7 and xp, with two sets of boot files. I also stated i thought it was the problem from the get go, in the first post to you,.

    If not for the two separate bootloaders xp and 7 I would have done this on first try.
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  10. Posts : 1,300
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
       #30

    Sorry about that.
    I have difficulty myself reading all the mixed details. I'm a non-native English speaker.

    If it boots, then fine, it means all good in Hyper-V and you can install OS there.
    Don't click upgrade, why would you do that? If you know how to fix the boot loader do that via the booted DVD. Go to command prompt or select the "startup repair" option.

    Otherwise you can also try to do a clean-install.

    I've installed Win7 multiple times in Hyper-V, I even recycled older VMs form VirtualBox... I simply don't understand why it's not working in your case.

    But avoid irrelevant options: no upgrade is needed, no DOS is involved... keep the steps clean and do it in the right order.

    True, gaming won't work.
    I suggest to use VMWare Player in this case and try to boot from your VHD there.

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    I truly respect your persistence to try get this to work. After 8+ attempts others would have given up already. But this is how we improve ourselves

    Try to install 7 from scratch, in a new VM. Does it work that way?

    Depending on where your Win7 from backup was running you might have driver problems, for example if it was running under SATA, now Hyper-V gives you IDE so there would be some issues to expect.

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    sneauxwolf said:
    It will not let me take screenshots with install window open so I have to type what bit says...:
    Yes it does.
    Clipboard -> capture screen will take a screenshot.
    creating a VM win7, on win 10 pro i3 gen 9 machine-win7-capt.png
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