Sophos makes SANDBOXIE a FREEWARE!!


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       #1

    Sophos makes SANDBOXIE a FREEWARE!!


    Good news people...
    Sophos has decided to make Sandboxie free again, and it will be eventually open-source!

    Click HERE for the homepage.

    Sophos is excited to announce that we are making Sandboxie a free tool, with plans to transition it to an open source tool.
    This new evolution of Sandboxie is one we are enthusiastic about, but that does not mean this was an easy decision to make. Sandboxie has never been a significant component of Sophos’ business, and we have been exploring options for its future for a while.
    Frankly, the easiest and least costly decision for Sophos would have been to simply end of life Sandboxie. However, we love the technology too much to see it fade away. More importantly, we love the Sandboxie community too much to do that. The Sandboxie user base represents some of the most passionate, forward thinking, and knowledgeable members of the security community and we didn’t want to let you down.
    After thoughtful consideration we decided that the best way to keep Sandboxie going was to give it back to its users – transitioning it to an open source tool. We will release more information about the open source project as we continue to work on the details.
    Until the open source transition is completed we have decided to make all restricted features of Sandboxie completely free.
    edit:
    it no longer asks for activation since the registration scheme has been completely removed!
    all features are enabled.
    Last edited by Kamala; 4 Days Ago at 06:44.
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    Hi folks
    Sounds good -- perhaps though the business managers at Sophos missed a trick here --they should have sold it to Ms to replace the Microsoft almost non functioning version of Sandbox -- or perhaps they are too rich and don't need the money !!!. I'd certainly got the sales team on the case if that were me -- Open source is fine of course provided development keeps fairly standard and you don't get forks all over the place --this is a complex product.

    Anyway will be tempted to give this a go -- remember though it's not actually a Virtual machine but it should enable people to test out stuff that needs to be run on Real hardware when a VM isn't sufficient for testing.

    One thing though does Sandboxie have enough persistence so that you can test software and configurations that require a re-boot -- that was a major problem with Ms's Sandbox (among others like lack of configurability of the HDD space and location etc).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    jimbo45 said: View Post
    One thing though does Sandboxie have enough persistence so that you can test software and configurations that require a re-boot
    I don't think it does.
    But Sandboxie is not mainly a test-software program. It's first and foremost a security program and as such it excels.
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    jimbo45 said: View Post
    One thing though does Sandboxie have enough persistence so that you can test software and configurations that require a re-boot -- that was a major problem with Ms's Sandbox (among others like lack of configurability of the HDD space and location etc).

    Cheers
    jimbo



    if the software requires reboot... do not clear your sandboxie... reboot... and run it in sandboxie :)
    you really don't need to reboot your real OS,unless you have given the sandboxied program to access some real resources on the actual OS, then reboot might be required, but not necessarily...
    (by choosing in sandbox run from start menu,or just browse to sandboxie directory and launch the installed software from it's directory,or wherever it installs the launch file..)
    all should be there..
    sandboxie content stay in there over the reboots, until you clear the sandbox yourself.
    ofcourse it's never 100% guaranteed everything works in it...

    edit:
    personally i think the open-source thing will be a great thing,eventho there will be probably a ton of forks of it...
    but once people find the "right" people, developing it.. i'm sure we will hear about it, in here :)
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    Kamala said: View Post
    if the software requires reboot... do not clear your sandboxie... reboot... and run it in sandboxie :)
    you really don't need to reboot your real OS,unless you have given the sandboxied program to access some real resources on the actual OS, then reboot might be required, but not necessarily...
    (by choosing in sandbox run from start menu,or just browse to sandboxie directory and launch the installed software from it's directory,or wherever it installs the launch file..)
    all should be there..
    sandboxie content stay in there over the reboots, until you clear the sandbox yourself.
    ofcourse it's never 100% guaranteed everything works in it...

    edit:
    personally i think the open-source thing will be a great thing,eventho there will be probably a ton of forks of it...
    but once people find the "right" people, developing it.. i'm sure we will hear about it, in here :)
    Hi there

    Thanks for the info --yes I meant re-booting the Sandbox(Sandboxie) not the Host OS of course. Another issue which seems OK is that this doesn't need a "Hypervisor" to run --so you don't need to have HYPER-V services so could run on Windows HOME, also it shouldn't stop VMWare / VBOX running as well if required (outside the Sandbox).

    Worth looking at.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Kamala said: View Post
    you really don't need to reboot your real OS,unless you have given the sandboxied program to access some real resources on the actual OS
    But then the program is making changes outside the sandbox.
    I thought Jimbo45 was talking about OS reboot, and that would be (I think) due to changes outside the sandbox.
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    I tried it once or twice back in the XP days. I liked the concept but found, at the time, too many buggy issues and then of course it was no longer free.

    If it really does become open-source that could be a wonderful thing for developers and users alike.
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    jimbo45 said: View Post
    ..yes I meant re-booting the Sandbox(Sandboxie) not the Host OS of course. Another issue which seems OK is that this doesn't need a "Hypervisor" to run --so you don't need to have HYPER-V services so could run on Windows HOME, also it shouldn't stop VMWare / VBOX running as well if required (outside the Sandbox).

    Worth looking at.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hi Jimbo, programs you install in a sandbox, you can keep them for as long as you want. If it is a program that doesn't require a computer reboot, the sandboxed installation will likely go well. On the other hand, if the program you want to try is one that needs a computer reboot to install properly, then installing it sandboxed wont work. Also keep in mind that Sandboxie is a restrictive program, so, if you try to install complicated programs, programs that install services, drivers, etc, the sandboxed installation wont work. For security, Sandboxie doesnt allow programs to install drivers, etc. Remember that. So, don't be discouraged or surprised if something you want to try installing it sandboxed, dont install.

    Personally, most of the programs I run sandboxed are programs that are installed on the host and run sandboxed automatically every time they run. I mostly use Sandboxie for security. I use Sandboxie very little for testing programs. If you like to use Sandboxie for testing programs, I recommend you start with something simple something that probably will install fine. Something you wont have a problem installing, so you get a taste of how it works. I ll give you a couple of ideas. You could install a beta version of Firefox in one sandbox, and use it for testing. So, you ll have one version of Firefox unning on your host and another one in a sandbox. You could try Irfanview or Libre Office. This are easy programs for Sandboxie.

    On your post, you mentioned the Hypervisor. You might like to check this audio from 2008, is an interview of Sandboxies original developer (Ronen Tzur aka tzuk), in the interview he and Leo from grc talk about the Hypervisor, VMs and Sandboxie.

    The interview starts at minute 33:55

    http://twit.cachefly.net/audio/sn/sn0172/sn0172.mp3

    Or get it here, Episode #172

    GRC | Security Now! Episode Archive



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    Rubi said: View Post
    I tried it once or twice back in the XP days. I liked the concept but found, at the time, too many buggy issues and then of course it was no longer free.

    If it really does become open-source that could be a wonderful thing for developers and users alike.
    You can try it now. Is working great in W10 18362.356.



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    For people who never used Sandboxie or used the free version, this change of Sandboxie going free and eventually open source might be a good thing but personally, I have doubts. Going open source is better than becoming abandonware but I dont feel too confident things are going to work out fine. A few years back, Sophos acquired Invincea who had purchased SBIE years earlier. Sophos never cared about Sandboxie. For Sandboxie, falling in the hands of Sophos was the worst thing that could ever happen to the software and to us long time users.

    But I guess there is still hope. You guys who never tested Sandboxie, this is your chance. Its working very nice in W10. To this moment Sandboxie supports up to build 18362. So, it wont work on Insiders builds. Also, Metro apps or Edge, are not compatible with Sandboxie.

    My main purpose for using Sandboxie is security. And thats exactly what I gotten ever since that day in 2009 when I became a Sandboxie user. Choosing to use Sandboxie is the smartest decision I ever taken related to using the computer and the internet. Becoming a Sandboxie user radically changed my computer and internet experience for the better. No more infections. For me, is like they don't exist. Its been over 10 years like that. Enjoy it.

    Bo
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