Windows 10: SSD-Windows 10 + Ubuntu

  1.    30 Mar 2018 #1

    SSD-Windows 10 + Ubuntu


    In the computer I have a 120 GB SSD and a 1000 GB HDD. In DDE (formatted in a single partition) I installed Windows 10 Pro. I would like to install all in the SDS a Linux distribution. How do I do? Thank you very much.
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  2.    30 Mar 2018 #2

    Hi there
    What Virtual machine software would you use -- VMWARE, HYPER-V or VBOX. Until that question is answered one can't go further with your question.

    For a NATIVE Ubuntu install (i.e not as a VM) you need to think about Dual boot and just google install UBUNTU. Loads of help out there.

    As a VM though it's much easier and you can run concurrently with Windows,

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3.    05 Apr 2018 #3

    I'd have to agree. Ubuntu is very virtualization friendly, and it keeps your system clean, in terms of booting to only one OS.
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  4.    06 Apr 2018 #4

    Hi there

    Dual booting these days unless you specifically have to use legacy / native hardware is really not necessary any more with speed and power of modern computers.

    The whole virtualisation has been really improved over the last few years that even if you still use things like XP as a VM you can install most required drivers for these --I can still run a Minidisc recorder and player on an XP VM. Also a VM can use modern huge screens with 4K and other video resolutions even though these might have been unheard of when the original / legacy OS was released.

    It's almost getting to the point where even gamers can do serious stuff on a VM - this needs a bit of effort as you need a system to directly address the hardware but things like Esxi, KVM (on Linux Hosts) and hyper-V all of which allow hardware passthrough will soon make gaming on a VM no more difficult than on a physical machine.

    The main things you need though for running any sort of VM are not actual CPU horsepower (usually) but enough RAM and decent HDD's --preferably SSD's and if running Linux VM's don't forget to include a swap file when creating the VM.

    As I've mentioned on other posts if you use Linux VM's you can also assign physical HDD's to the VM so the native file system can be used as well as software RAID - RAID 0 is very fast and will improve the I/O of your VM quite dramatically (have backup though because if 1 HDD in the array fails you lose the whole thing. HDD's though these days seem very reliable - so failure is unlikely but still take backup.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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       06 Apr 2018 #5

    Although I fully agree with what has been said so far, I do understand if running Ubuntu in a VM is not an option, and I can think of many reasons why native boot is the only way to go. A VM simply can't use ALL hardware available on the physical machine, or it's sometimes too limiting. I do run Linux in VMs but there are a ton of stuff that does not work or is unreliable from there, no matter which virtualization technology I use (tried them all, both hypervisors and emulators).

    First thing you should check, is if you want to/and can setup the systems in UEFI or MBR(legacy BIOS) mode only. The setup process is slightly different. If your computer is old, then MBR is the better choice and a lot more reliable, even if the computer supports UEFI. ( Old systems claim to have full UEFI support while they are not 100% up to the standards and cause a lot of issues. New computers do NOT have these issues since they are designed specifically around UEFI )
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  6.    06 Apr 2018 #6

    Hi there.

    Virtualisation can support UEFI mode even if the original computer doesn't have it !!!!
    I've run quite a few Linux distros and servers as VM's and there have been almost no cases where I need to actually access the hardware -- usually sound if there is any issue will be the main problem. However I'm running these systems mainly as file servers / internet gateways, php type of stuff and openvpn (free vpn) so the issue of sound isn't that important as I have a windows machine if I need to run that type of stuff.

    For almost anything else such as graphics, 3-d, CAD or whatever --no probs running Linux VM's.
    As in all these things it depends on what you want your VM to do -- and it's harder if you are coming primarily from a Windows background to hunt down and install specific drivers for hardware (sometimes they don't exist) because some of this stuff doesn't work "straight out of the box".

    Dual booting would be a real pain as I'd have to shut down 5 or 6 VM's every time to load up the alternate OS !!!!!!.

    I do have a spare machine for trying out various OS'es in Native mode though.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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       06 Apr 2018 #7

    @jimbo45

    Yes, for number crunching stuff only a VM is the way to go on modern hardware.


    BUT, not all hardware support VT-d and thus those computers are screwed when it comes to other hardware support than networking, CPU, RAM and disk drives (with a few exception)
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