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  1.    05 Jul 2017 #1

    Locking down a pc to prevent a child ' hacking' it


    Windows 10 pro 64bit

    Previousy I installed kids wartch on my sons pc, but he insisted on keeping his count as admin, but eventually he decided to disable kidswatch.

    i intend installing it again but keeping his account as local user....intend disabling various things in GPEDIT...

    but what hat else can I lock down that would assist him in disabling kidswatch ( or any other program really )

    he he just needs to,be able to do a bit of browsing and play some of his installed games

    thanks
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  2.    05 Jul 2017 #2
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    This is not the type of problem that requires computer skills, It's a problem that requires good parental skills.

    Take his computer away, If he says he needs it for school tell him it sucks to be him because he is going to fail and if he's lucky he can spend the rest of his life cooking hamburgers at McDonalds for minimum wage.

    Check his computer every day until he get's that you're serious.
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  3.    05 Jul 2017 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddwarf4ever View Post
    Windows 10 pro 64bit

    Previousy I installed kids wartch on my sons pc, but he insisted on keeping his count as admin, but eventually he decided to disable kidswatch.

    i intend installing it again but keeping his account as local user....intend disabling various things in GPEDIT...

    but what hat else can I lock down that would assist him in disabling kidswatch ( or any other program really )

    he he just needs to,be able to do a bit of browsing and play some of his installed games

    thanks
    Hi.
    Best practice for safe computing is to have an admin account + a limited account, and use the limited account for every-day stuff (like surfing the web!). This protects your system. This goes for adults as well as children.

    Young children have no idea about computer safety, no idea how to protect themselves from online predators, and should only be using a limited account, and under adult supervision. You are the adult, and only you should have access to the admin account. If you're going to spend the money on KidsWatch, then you need to set the user accounts up properly, so the child cannot circumvent the software.
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  4.    05 Jul 2017 #4
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    How old is your son/how computer savvy? Because you may need to enable the hidden administrator account and set a password on it as well, then disable it again.
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  5.    06 Jul 2017 #5

    Quote Originally Posted by simrick View Post
    How old is your son/how computer savvy? Because you may need to enable the hidden administrator account and set a password on it as well, then disable it again.
    That is an excellent idea, I hadn't thought of....

    my son os almost 16.....bit of a handful, lives with my ex partner, so makes things bit more difficult....

    hoped there might be a list somewhere of things to disable to prevent disabling of programs.....reevo is particularly unhelpful as it allows removal of program components, even if there is a master password for the program.......reevo said it wasn't their problem when asked and kidswatch blamed reeve for being irresponsible .....

    i would like like to see the ISP's helping by allowing easy setup of parental controls, time settings etc , possibly on the router and idegect if it was reset with a paper clip and reinstate the settings automatically.....

    i hear ear every day about protecting children online, but so much could easily be done to help, but it's not....
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  6.    06 Jul 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddwarf4ever View Post
    That is an excellent idea, I hadn't thought of....

    my son os almost 16.....bit of a handful, lives with my ex partner, so makes things bit more difficult....
    Okay, I have a 14 year old - I know where you're coming from. You will have to add a password to the hidden admin account then for sure.
    Enable or Disable Elevated Administrator account in Windows 10 Windows 10 User Accounts Tutorials
    Once enabled, set a password, then disable it again. Chances are he is unaware of this feature (for now).

    Quote Originally Posted by reddwarf4ever View Post
    hoped there might be a list somewhere of things to disable to prevent disabling of programs.....reevo is particularly unhelpful as it allows removal of program components, even if there is a master password for the program.......reevo said it wasn't their problem when asked and kidswatch blamed reeve for being irresponsible .....
    If he is using a limited account, he will not be able to install/uninstall programs without having the admin password. Also, if an infection hits, it will not be able to do as much damage to the system. I don't know what reevo/reeve is(?), but if he is in a limited account, he can't make changes to the system. If you don't install reevo/reeve in the first place, it won't be there for him to use.

    Your router will have capability of controlling on/off times via the MAC address of the computer.

    You can also add OpenDNS DNS server addresses to the NIC and/or router, to prevent him going to known bad sites.
    FamilyShield Router Configuration Instructions OpenDNS

    Quote Originally Posted by reddwarf4ever View Post
    i would like like to see the ISP's helping by allowing easy setup of parental controls, time settings etc , possibly on the router and idegect if it was reset with a paper clip and reinstate the settings automatically.....
    Setup your router as I describe, then export the settings to a file on the admin desktop. If they are every tampered with, you can easily restore them. Make sure your router is password protected, and NOT with the default password.
    Quote Originally Posted by reddwarf4ever View Post
    i hear ear every day about protecting children online, but so much could easily be done to help, but it's not....
    It is up to you to do this. Lock things way down at first. Teach him what to look for, what to avoid, how to act online, etc. Once he demonstrates responsibility, give him a little wiggle room as a reward.
    Kids need to learn how to be responsible online - we have to teach them. Then we have to trust them, eventually. We don't want them messing up future job opportunities because of some stupid childhood actions.
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  7.    06 Jul 2017 #7

    Unfortunately as my son does not live with me, it's difficult to address issues....I have enabled set a password and disabled the built in admin account....have disabled quite a bit using GPEDIT ....

    the problem with programs such as revo uninstaller, is that it still removes enough, even though the program being installed asks for an uninstall password.....

    but it now my son will have a basic account and cannot install anything, so should be ok, just need to disable the built in add remove programs facility, just in case..

    thanks
    Last edited by reddwarf4ever; 07 Jul 2017 at 03:57.
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  8.    06 Jul 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddwarf4ever View Post
    Unfortunately as my son does not live with me, it's difficult to address issues....I have enabled set a password and disabled the built in admin account....have disabled quite a bit using GPEDIT ....

    the problem with programs such as revo uninstaller, is that it still removes enough, even though the program being installed asks for an uninstall password.....

    but it now my son will have a basic account and cannot install anything, so should be ok, just need to disable the built in add remove programs faculty, just in case..

    thanks
    Cheers!
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  9.    08 Oct 2017 #9
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    My son likes to use the net user command during bootup. I locked his butt down with AD GPO (WIN2K8) but haven't figured out how to prevent or deny the net user command. He is able to change password and activated the Admin account.
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  10.    08 Oct 2017 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrine View Post
    My son likes to use the net user command during bootup. I locked his butt down with AD GPO (WIN2K8) but haven't figured out how to prevent or deny the net user command. He is able to change password and activated the Admin account.
    Hi there, dbrine. Welcome to Windows TenForums.

    You may want to look into this > Go to your MS account online > Click on "Family" > Set up a family member account.

    More info > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rosoft-account > Choose "Set up and manage your family" for full explanation.

    Also, open Settings app (WinKey/I) > Choose "Accounts" > Choose "Add a family member".
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