Windows 10: Disable Windows 10 Pro PIN complexity rules

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  1.    14 Jun 2017 #1

    Disable Windows 10 Pro PIN complexity rules


    I've searched everywhere, and I can't find an answer to this.

    When I try to add a PIN, which is on a TEST laptop that I intend to use only for Insider builds, it complains that I have to "Provide a PIN that meets the complexity requirements. Your PIN can't be a common number pattern".

    I've turned off all the other settings in the group policy editor, so that it's just a standard 4-digit pin. No history, no expiration, no requirement of letters or upper/lower case. BUT THERE'S NO SETTING FOR THE NUMBER PATTERN. I don't care if it's insecure. I want to log in quickly and simply just to test things.

    How can I disable this? It was apparently recently added, as I've had a simple PIN for a while, but the latest insider build crashed my PC and I had to reset/revert it. And since it's a brand new install, it erased my existing PIN, so when I went to add it... I couldn't.

    This is really frustrating. I understand the need for security for most people in most situations, but I'm not in any of those situations, and I really don't want to make up some new complicated PIN I won't remember or have to write down (defeating the purpose anyway). If I want my PIN to be "1111" or "2222", how do I enable this, and TURN OF the complexity and pattern requirements?

    Also, most of the stuff I found was for domain-joined business computers. This is a stand-alone laptop running Windows Pro. No "Windows Hello", nothing fancy.

    Help?
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  2. Posts : 3,922
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       15 Jun 2017 #2

    I have the IP on 2 Desktops, Windows 10 Pro Version 1703 Build 16199.1000, and have never seen the same problem. But because they are Test machines only [not production machines nor dual-booting] I don't 'customize' them, don't turn any of the features off so I can see how most users will see them. There is a newer Build available but am on the road this week and won't get it installed for a few more days. But you haven't listed which version of Win10 IP you have installed.
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  3. Posts : 12,966
    Windows 10 Pro
       15 Jun 2017 #3

    pmbAustin said: View Post
    I really don't want to make up some new complicated PIN I won't remember or have to write down.
    How difficult can it be to remember four digits? Or numbers like 1,000, 5,000 and so on? Those would be accepted as they are not all same digits nor consecutive digits.


    Berton said: View Post
    I have the IP on 2 Desktops, Windows 10 Pro Version 1703 Build 16199.1000, and have never seen the same problem.
    This is default Windows 10 behaviour, nothing to do with Group Polices or registry settings. PIN cannot be all same digit or consecutive digits (ascending or descending):

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    Kari
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  4. Posts : 9,361
    Windows 10 Professional
       16 Jun 2017 #4

    pmbAustin said: View Post
    I've searched everywhere, and I can't find an answer to this.

    When I try to add a PIN, which is on a TEST laptop that I intend to use only for Insider builds, it complains that I have to "Provide a PIN that meets the complexity requirements. Your PIN can't be a common number pattern".

    I've turned off all the other settings in the group policy editor, so that it's just a standard 4-digit pin. No history, no expiration, no requirement of letters or upper/lower case. BUT THERE'S NO SETTING FOR THE NUMBER PATTERN. I don't care if it's insecure. I want to log in quickly and simply just to test things.

    How can I disable this? It was apparently recently added, as I've had a simple PIN for a while, but the latest insider build crashed my PC and I had to reset/revert it. And since it's a brand new install, it erased my existing PIN, so when I went to add it... I couldn't.

    This is really frustrating. I understand the need for security for most people in most situations, but I'm not in any of those situations, and I really don't want to make up some new complicated PIN I won't remember or have to write down (defeating the purpose anyway). If I want my PIN to be "1111" or "2222", how do I enable this, and TURN OF the complexity and pattern requirements?

    Also, most of the stuff I found was for domain-joined business computers. This is a stand-alone laptop running Windows Pro. No "Windows Hello", nothing fancy.

    Help?
    Use a Local Account.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  5.    16 Jun 2017 #5

    That requirement changed: Windows 10 allowed any PIN in previous releases.
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  6.    17 Jun 2017 #6

    Kari said: View Post
    How difficult can it be to remember four digits? Or numbers like 1,000, 5,000 and so on? Those would be accepted as they are not all same digits nor consecutive digits.




    This is default Windows 10 behaviour, nothing to do with Group Polices or registry settings. PIN cannot be all same digit or consecutive digits (ascending or descending):

    Kari

    The point is it HAS changed. I always had a simple PIN, that is now drilled into my muscle memory, and I don't want to change it because there should be no need to change it. I just want to disable this NEW requirement so I can continue using this test device for insider builds as I always have. And when I have a thousand things to remember already, adding one more is just not going to happen. Surely there has GOT to be a way to get around this stupid new enforcement...
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  7. Posts : 12,966
    Windows 10 Pro
       17 Jun 2017 #7

    pmbAustin said: View Post
    The point is it HAS changed.
    It was introduced in of the Insider Preview builds before version 1703, and was officially introduced in Windows 10 version 1703 build 15063.


    pmbAustin said: View Post
    And when I have a thousand things to remember already, adding one more is just not going to happen. Surely there has GOT to be a way to get around this stupid new enforcement...
    Tough. If you can't remember a number like 1,000 or your own birthday, then you either stop using PIN or clean install Anniversary Update version 1607 build 14393 and never upgrade.

    BTW, you can't use your birthday as a pin if you are born November 11th, any other date is OK.


    pmbAustin said: View Post
    Surely there has GOT to be a way to get around this stupid new enforcement...
    I find it extremely amusing when people complain about tiny microscopic matters like this. This "Stupid new enforcement" in question adds an additional layer to Windows security being totally logical.

    It's like people complaining when paying something with credit card and they are asked to show an ID, yet if their card was stolen and used by someone else their first complaint is why on earth didn't the shop ask card holder's ID.

    As I said, tough. Don't use a PIN or go back to old Windows version.

    Kari
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  8. Posts : 3,922
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       17 Jun 2017 #8

    I'm running Win10 Released/RTM Version 1703 Build 15063 on a few computers [Upgraded from Version 1607] and Win10 IP Version 1703 Build 16199 on 2 computers and have never had a problem with the PIN number, only use 4 digits.
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  9. Posts : 9,361
    Windows 10 Professional
       17 Jun 2017 #9

    1100 was as non-complex as Windows would allow, then I figured, screw it, just use a Local Account and sign in to apps individually!
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  10. Posts : 12,966
    Windows 10 Pro
       17 Jun 2017 #10

    Edwin said: View Post
    1100 was as non-complex as Windows would allow, then I figured, screw it, just use a Local Account and sign in to apps individually!
    Local account with password has same PIN rules, in case user wants to use a password and PIN.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 
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