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f14tomcat · 29 Mar 2017

alphanumeric said:

Seeing as Windows 7 was included in the free upgrade the MCT should have no issues being run on a Windows 7 PC. I'm pretty sure that's not why he's getting the missing driver message. Not 100% sure, but reasonably sure. If you go here, https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10 and click the using the tool you'll see detailed info.

Oh, I don't doubt that at all. I wonder how he actually did it, though. If he didn't choose "make for another PC" and just followed thru and let the MS burner do the DVD, what did he get? I don't have a 7 machine to poke around on, so I'm kinda running blind.

ship69 · 29 Mar 2017

alphanumeric said:

Seeing as Windows 7 was included in the free upgrade the MCT should have no issues being run on a Windows 7 PC. I'm pretty sure that's not why he's getting the missing driver message. Not 100% sure, but reasonably sure. If you go here, https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10 and click the using the tool you'll see detailed info.

I believe that is the page (except it was the UK version of the page) from which I downloaded the media creation tool.

I'm not 100% sure which USB drive is USB 2, rather than USB 3.
But you could be right about the DVD running out of space because it is only a single-sided DVD. There is 4.33 GB of data on the DVD - is that enough? The things is, though, surely it would have thrown an error message when I burned the DVD (earlier today) if it had run out of space.
Yes the DVD was created from a Windows 7 PC.
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ship69 · 29 Mar 2017

f14tomcat said:

Oh, I don't doubt that at all. I wonder how he actually did it, though. If he didn't choose "make for another PC" and just followed thru and let the MS burner do the DVD, what did he get? I don't have a 7 machine to poke around on, so I'm kinda running blind.

Yes, I did choose "make for another PC" or similar words rather than install on this PC.

alphanumeric · 29 Mar 2017

f14tomcat said:

Oh, I don't doubt that at all. I wonder how he actually did it, though. If he didn't choose "make for another PC" and just followed thru and let the MS burner do the DVD, what did he get? I don't have a 7 machine to poke around on, so I'm kinda running blind.

If you select the other option (upgrade this PC now) it does an in place upgrade without creating any install media.

alphanumeric · 29 Mar 2017

ship69 said:

Yes, I did choose "make for another PC" or similar words rather than install on this PC.

What did you select for options in the next window? Language, Edition, Architecture? The defaults are likely based on the OS its being run from. If 32 bit was selected, or 10 Home Single Language, or 10 N, the ISO will be smaller than the 64 bit Windows 10 ISO. The "Windows 10" selection for Edition gets you a multi edition ISO that can install Home, Pro, Education and I think Enterprise. It's a big ISO. In the past that option just got you Home and Pro. Odds are you want Home or Pro, not SL or N.

ship69 · 29 Mar 2017

alphanumeric said:

Is your external USB DVD drive plugged into a USB 3 Port? Google hints that that can be an issue. Corrupted install media can cause it too apparently.

I have tried plugging my USB DVD drive into each of my three USB port and for each one it seems from the noises that the PC can see the contents but it comes back with "No signed device drivers were found."

ship69 · 29 Mar 2017

alphanumeric said:

If you select the other option (upgrade this PC now) it does an in place upgrade without creating any install media.

To get clear, no I didn't select the upgrade option.

alphanumeric · 29 Mar 2017

For what its worth, I do up my thumb drives with diskpart, as I mentioned earlier. They work without issue on all my PC's here at home, UEFI and Legacy BIOS. Installs will be much faster than doing it from optical media. And I've done installs with them plugged into the USB 3 ports on my laptop. I use 16 gig drives because that's what I'm have on hand. The 4 gig drives I have aren't large enough.
I'm not sure why your getting the missing driver message. If its because your using the external DVD drive, doing your install from a thumb drive should get rid of it. It its not that its likely because its an mSATA and not a regular SATA drive. Gust a guess on my part to be honest.

f14tomcat · 29 Mar 2017

alphanumeric said:

For what its worth, I do up my thumb drives with diskpart, as I mentioned earlier. They work without issue on all my PC's here at home, UEFI and Legacy BIOS. Installs will be much faster than doing it from optical media. And I've done installs with them plugged into the USB 3 ports on my laptop. I use 16 gig drives because that's what I'm have on hand. The 4 gig drives I have aren't large enough.
I'm not sure why your getting the missing driver message. If its because your using the external DVD drive, doing your install from a thumb drive should get rid of it. It its not that its likely because its an mSATA and not a regular SATA drive. Gust a guess on my part to be honest.

Is it possible to put the 128GB drive back in to test that theory? Not to install....Just to see if you get that far? If you do, the only thing left is the DVD drive and/or corrupt media.

ship69 · 29 Mar 2017

alphanumeric said:

What did you select for options in the next window? Language, Edition, Architecture? The defaults are likely based on the OS its being run from. If 32 bit was selected, or 10 Home Single Language, or 10 N, the ISO will be smaller than the 64 bit Windows 10 ISO. The "Windows 10" selection for Edition gets you a multi edition ISO that can install Home, Pro, Education and I think Enterprise. It's a big ISO. In the past that option just got you Home and Pro. Odds are you want Home or Pro, not SL or N.

Interesting question. My PC itself had a Window 10 Pro (upgraded from Window 8). The pronblem is that I was not offered Windows 10 Pro when building the DVD. I think I was just offered Windows 10, Windows 10, and something else which wasn't relevant.

OK it seems that my DVD *might* be too small... and the the Flash drive is incompatible with Windows 7 (??). I have one more option which would be to use my (1TB) external hard disk (USB). BUT there is a lot of data on that drive and it is crucial that I do not erase that data accidentally, whilst making it bootable.

Is there anything else I could try to make the flash drive visible to the MediaCreationTool here on my Windows 7 PC?