1. Joined : Sep 2015
    Posts : 14
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       26 Jun 2016 #1

    Administrator can change owner of registry key but not permissions...


    I'm running 64-bit Windows Pro on an Asus P5Q-EM MB with an Intel E8600 processor with 8 GB of PC2-6400 Ram.

    I've had a couple of unexpected shutdowns and restarts lately. I've got several different error types in my event log. The only one showing to be "critical" is the Kernal Power one that simply says it has recovered from an unexpected shutdown.

    I decided to just start eliminating he errors one by one to see if I could find/resolve the cause. The one I started with was several DistributedCom 10016 "The machine-default permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID xx..."

    I found the CLSID in the registry and noted that the owner was TrustedInstaller. I changed it to the Admin user, checked the include child, subfolder, inheritance, etc. boxes and hit apply. It gave me an error saying that it could not save the changes but I noted that it had in fact changed the owner. After getting out of permissions and then re-entering I attempted to change the Admin user/owner's permission to Full Control.

    It will not change. It gives me an error saying that it cannot save the changes. I've always been able to solve registry access issues in the past simply by taking ownership. Why not this time?

    Anybody know why a registry key owner would not be able to make permission changes?


    Thanks in advance,

    Howard
    =====================================================================================
    Log Name: System
    Source: Microsoft-Windows-DistributedCOM
    Date: 6/26/2016 10:34:23 AM
    Event ID: 10016
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: P5Q-EM\wooda
    Computer: P5Q-EM
    Description:
    The machine-default permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
    {C2F03A33-21F5-47FA-B4BB-156362A2F239}
    and APPID
    {316CDED5-E4AE-4B15-9113-7055D84DCC97}
    to the user P5Q-EM\wooda SID (S-1-5-21-4244340960-2181271989-1333400844-1010) from address LocalHost (Using LRPC) running in the application container Microsoft.Windows.FeatureOnDemand.InsiderHub_10.0.10586.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy SID (S-1-15-2-4016783169-893401051-2237370320-274899566-412088533-2398988950-2155762795). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-DistributedCOM" Guid="{1B562E86-B7AA-4131-BADC-B6F3A001407E}" EventSourceName="DCOM" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="0">10016</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2016-06-26T17:34:23.628753000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>5970</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="924" ThreadID="8332" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>P5Q-EM</Computer>
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  2. Joined : May 2015
    Central IL
    Posts : 3,084
    EL Capitan
       26 Jun 2016 #2

    Microsoft did that to protect the OS from the end user. Windows 10 was built on security to make sure that the end user is protected by their own bad habits.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 655
    Windows 7
       26 Jun 2016 #3

    Unexpected shutdown are likely caused by hardware issues, not incorrect registry settings. But I doubt they were incorrect anyway.
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  4. Joined : May 2015
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    Posts : 3,084
    EL Capitan
       27 Jun 2016 #4

    LMiller7 said: View Post
    Unexpected shutdown are likely caused by hardware issues, not incorrect registry settings. But I doubt they were incorrect anyway.
    See the part where they changed ownership from "Trusted Installer" to Admin, which caused the error.
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  5. Joined : Sep 2015
    Posts : 14
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       27 Jun 2016 #5

    bro67 said: View Post
    Microsoft did that to protect the OS from the end user. Windows 10 was built on security to make sure that the end user is protected by their own bad habits.
    Ha ha. You're probably right about that but it doesn't answer anything.

    It shows up as an error. It says that the error is incorrect permissions. It then says "This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool".

    It allows me to take ownership but it doesn't allow me to change permissions. I'm wondering if it has something to do with me being logged with my Microsoft account instead of the local administrator account. I'll give that a try.
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  6. Joined : May 2015
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    Posts : 3,084
    EL Capitan
       27 Jun 2016 #6

    It does answer why you are not allowed to over ride the "Trusted Installer" Permission.

    Windows 10 was built on a very secure platform and coded to protect users from their bad habits.

    The reason for certain folders and files cannot be changed from Trusted Installer, is once again to protect the OS from bad things and bad user habits.
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  7. Joined : May 2015
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    Posts : 3,084
    EL Capitan
       27 Jun 2016 #7

    Also the Live Account is what is called a "Roaming Profile". Thr Local Account is exactly that.
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  8. Joined : Sep 2015
    Posts : 14
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       28 Jun 2016 #8

    Did it answer the question or not...


    bro67 said: View Post
    Also the Live Account is what is called a "Roaming Profile". The Local Account is exactly that.
    Nope. Logging on as the local administrator allowed me to make all the permission changes required to eliminate the error. Not sure why you think the Windows 10 folks would have wanted to disallow these changes -- especially after the ownership was changed.

    Nevertheless, permissions changed and errors gone.

    Thanks for your time and help.

    Howard
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  9. Joined : May 2015
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    Posts : 3,084
    EL Capitan
       28 Jun 2016 #9

    Again you are not an Administrator. You are just a profile on the account with semi-elevated privileges. As for the permission changes from "Trusted Installer" to something else, it will not happen, even if all of the moons and planets align at the same moment. Microsoft made sure with Windows 10, that the user is protected from their bad habits and that it is harder for malware to try and take control of the OS.
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