Windows 10: How to remove Microsoft Account from the Hidden Administrator

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  1. Posts : 3,357
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       10 Sep 2015 #11

    3.) Start from scratch and clean install Windows 10. Windows 10 - Clean Install - Windows 10 Forums


    Since 10 has been activated regardless of the source of the problem the last resort option is the only one that makes actual sense! When suggesting creating a new MS account to see if then the local account was available you missed the point entirely!

    Originally Posted by Night Hawk


    .....Once signed into the new MS account the option for the local account should be available unless something else is trashed in the 10 especially if still running with the initial upgrade install. That's where things tend to be "Buggy"!

    If creating the new MS account still fails to restore the option to sign in by local account that would indicate at least a repair install if not fresh clean might be needed to get things working as they should be.
    I could have easily suggested simply wiping the drive and starting over fresh to guaranty a working end result. The idea was to see if another solution was available first. But then apparently you didn't read the beginning of the next paragraph when suggesting going back to 7 and then upgrading to 10 all over again and once again repeat the same process all over again?

    Another upgrade once reverted back to the exact same 7 installation where the system admin had been turned into the local account to see the system admin become the local account once again in 10 with a second upgrade? The source of the problem according to you was what went on with the 7 installation there.

    The repair install suggestion was simply to if the 10 installer could correct the system admin problem before the absolute solution nuke the present copy of 10 was turned to. That would be the last resort option I had already mentioned if the repair install wasn't able to succeed to leave the rest of the present 10 install intact.
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    Windows 10 Pro
       10 Sep 2015 #12

    Night Hawk said: View Post


    Since 10 has been activated regardless of the source of the problem the last resort option is the only one that makes actual sense! When suggesting creating a new MS account to see if then the local account was available you missed the point entirely!
    Wrong again.

    The easiest solution for the OP would be the alternative #1 in the options I have told he / she has, to use a restore point to get Windows back to the state it was before he accidentally converted the built-in administrator account to a Microsoft account. When done, the OP would then need to add a local admin account, sign in to it, disable the built-in admin account and everything would be OK again.

    All your posts in this thread have only shown that you do not understand this, that you in fact have not the faintest idea of this, that you do not know how to solve this, and you have only managed to complicate a simple issue without offering any solutions.

    For the OP's sake I ask you: Please do not post anymore in this thread!

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 11 Mar 2016 at 04:29.
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  3.    11 Mar 2016 #13

    There Is No Remove Button For Me


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    !!But I don't have a remove button!!And I Wanna remove the Acc!! Advice!!
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       11 Mar 2016 #14

    Faz said: View Post
    !!But I don't have a remove button!!And I Wanna remove the Acc!! Advice!!
    What account you want to remove? A Windows 10 user account, or one of your additional accounts seen in your account page under Email, calendar and contacts or Accounts used by other apps?

    EDIT: I saw you started your own thread here: I Can't Remove My Microsoft Account.Help Me - Windows 10 Forums

    As your issue has nothing to do with the topic in this thread, I think it's better we continue there.
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  5.    17 Jul 2016 #15

    Admin Account changed


    I am totally pissed. I did a restore point about 8 hrs ago and now I have to redo that 8 hours. My mistake was using Microsoft edge and signing in to my microsoft account. Not knowing why they wanted my Admin password I entered it. Big mistake. I login always as Administrator and will not run Windows any other way. This is totaly a big screw up that microsoft has made and I am really ready to go back to 7. I want complete control of my PC and don't like the "no options in Windows updates" either. I use Firefox and don't need any Microsoft aplications other than Office. So quit with the built in stuff. Thank you for the 2 pages of denial before you beleived this poor guy.
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  6.    06 Nov 2016 #16

    Kari said: View Post
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    The loophole you found, activating the built-in admin in previous version and then upgrading to Windows 10 using it seems to override all default security restrictions on the said built-in admin account, making it possible to connect it to a Microsoft account. However, as this is meant never to happen, once you have converted the built-in admin account to a Microsoft account, it is no longer possible to convert it back to a local account. It is absolutely impossible, that is why the Your account page does not even show the Sign in with a local account instead option:
    ...


    The loophole you found is so bad that I am sure that Microsoft will fix this in the near future, making it impossible in any upgrade or install scenario to convert the built-in administrator account to a Microsoft account.
    ...
    Hi Kari,

    Thank you for your explanation which is very comforting as I was confronted with the same issue.

    My PC had been upgraded from Win 7 to Windows 10 and when I linked my Windows 10 license to my Microsoft account, I ended up with the Admin account being converted to a Microsoft account. There was no way to revert this account to the local Administrator account except for reverting Windows to the last restore point - which I successfully did.

    And why did my Admin account turn into a Microsoft account? Because I followed Microsoft instructions to add my Microsoft account to Windows in order to link it to the digital Windows 10 license. These instructions require to "be signed in as an administrator". Also Ten Forum suggest similar steps. However, this will switch your local account to a Microsoft account on your Windows 10 PC.

    Internet forums are full of users struggling to revert this step, here and here, for example. So maybe it's a feature not a bug.

    Now I know that a safer way to link your Windows 10 license to your Microsoft account is to create a new local account first.
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  7.    12 Dec 2016 #17

    DanTheMan said: View Post
    Hi Kari,

    The loophole you found is so bad that I am sure that Microsoft will fix this in the near future, making it impossible in any upgrade or install scenario to convert the built-in administrator account to a Microsoft account.
    Of course the more interesting issue for anyone trapped in this black hole is whether MS will ever provide some way to actually convert a built-in administrator account in this situation back to a local account.

    I'm in no mood to throw away years of profile configuration. In the meantime, I've created a new administrator account and copied everything I could from my built-in administrator account trapped in the MSA black-hole. I'll just live without MSA until they can bail me out of the black hole they created.
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       12 Dec 2016 #18

    jedpaquette said: View Post
    Of course the more interesting issue for anyone trapped in this black hole is whether MS will ever provide some way to actually convert a built-in administrator account in this situation back to a local account.

    I'm in no mood to throw away years of profile configuration. In the meantime, I've created a new administrator account and copied everything I could from my built-in administrator account trapped in the MSA black-hole. I'll just live without MSA until they can bail me out of the black hole they created.
    It's you who have created this black hole, not Microsoft. The built-in admin account is not, has never been and will never be meant to be used as a normal user account. It should remain as a special account, remain disabled most of the time and only enabled when really needed.

    Kari
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  9.    12 Dec 2016 #19

    Kari said: View Post
    It's you who have created this black hole, not Microsoft. The built-in admin account is not, has never been and will never be meant to be used as a normal user account. It should remain as a special account, remain disabled most of the time and only enabled when really needed.

    Kari
    But it's just so much easier to blame Microsoft for EVERYTHING!
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  10.    13 Dec 2016 #20

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    But it's just so much easier to blame Microsoft for EVERYTHING!
    Of course, everything depends on perspective — what you see depends on where you sit. I know the reasons for not using the built-in administrator account to do day-to-day work on a Windows computer. Yet I have done so consistently since XP. So perhaps I am at fault here although I still find it disingenuous that Microsoft would provide no way for Windows users with administrator privileges to escape this blackhole. After all, although I was familiar with all the classic reasons why I should not use the built-in administrator account, I tend to be obsessively careful about my exposure to hacking on any account.

    I would suspect that those unfamiliar with the dangers of using the built-in administrator account, or even unclear about the distinction between the built-in administrator account and other administrator accounts, would have a different perspective — particularly if they were lured into making their built-in administrator account an MSA in Windows 7 and then got locked into this problem in Windows 10 at the time they upgraded.

    I remain convinced that the decent thing for Microsoft to do is to provide a way out for those trapped in this situation — and suggesting a clean install, reverting to a long-since disappeared restore point, or even back to Windows 7 or something of that nature doesn't seem much help at this stage of the game.
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