Windows 10 - forced migration to Microsoft account, any way to reverse

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  1. Posts : 20
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Windows 10 - forced migration to Microsoft account, any way to reverse


    So my old computer has been able to get away with not using a Microsoft account to login for at least 5 years, but after a recent Windows Update (Windows 10 22H2), I came back to see that it defaulted to my Microsoft account as a log in. I can still sign into my old local account, but all my settings there are just gone entirely and seem to have been moved over to the new user created for my Microsoft account.

    (In C:\Users, I see a folder for my old local account and then another folder for the new account now).

    I see that there's an option under "Your Info" in Account Settings to "Sign in with a local account", but if I type in my old local account name it says that it's already taken and won't let me use it. Does that mean I'm stuck now? If I create a brand new local account using the 'sign in with local account option', I assume my settings won't carry over?

    Thanks.
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  2. Posts : 43,009
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, I have difficulty understanding how it is that this could have happened without someone making the choice.

    That said, if you are certain you are now logging in with a MS account, you can change it to a local account.
    (You can check thus:
    How to Tell if Local Account or Microsoft Account in Windows 10
    )



    From the searchable Tutorials section (do please feel free to have a look- very useful!) see
    Switch to Local Account in Windows 10

    (For reference the converse tutorial is):
    Switch to Microsoft Account in Windows 10
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  3. Posts : 20
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Hi there,

    Now that I think about it, there may have been a prompt that I clicked through because I've done it so many times that I've never had to worry about it - it's that "Setting up Windows" screen that occasionally appears after major updates that asks if you want to send data to Microsoft and all that. Maybe they snuck in account migration there and I didn't notice.

    Yeah, I do know about the local account option linked in the tutorial there. It won't let me use the old local account name anymore, because it says it already exists. My question if I use that option to create a brand new local account, will my settings carry over?

    That is, if I create a new local user, will the new local user use my existing C:\User folder and keep my settings?

    I tried signing onto my old local account, which still exists, but all my installed apps and program settings are gone. I see two user directories in C:\Users now, one that was presumably created when it migrated to the Microsoft account, but I'm not sure which directory my Microsoft account login is using now, so I'm confused about what will happen.
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  4. Posts : 43,009
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    I'm not sure which directory my Microsoft account login is using now,
    This is quite easy.

    If you log in to the account which is a MS account (I've given you the tutorial on how to check which sort of account you are logged in to) then copy and paste

    %userprofile%
    into file explorer's address bar.

    That will show you the path including the current user profile folder.

    If that's the account you wish to continue to use, and it's a MS account, and you wish to change it to a local account, you have the tutorial (above) to do that.
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  5. Posts : 20
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Ah I didn't think of doing that, thanks. I'm experiencing some weird behaviour because one of my apps is using the new user's appdata folder for its settings for some reason.

    I guess I can be fine for the most part if I keep things the way they are just to avoid any further problems, but I just wanted to confirm what happens if I did go ahead with creating a local account - does it migrate the User directory to this new account?

    Maybe it's time to create a backup anyway, but any info would be appreciated. Thanks. :)
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  6. Posts : 43,009
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #6

    You are of course free to create a new account... but I thought you wanted a local account with all your installed programs, settings, data (e.g. in Documents, Pictures ) etc as the account which has suddenly become a MS account.

    That's why I've suggested you change the account you say has become a MS account back to a local account.
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  7. Posts : 20
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Ah yes, maybe I'm not describing it correctly.

    I tried clicking on the option to migrate to local account, and then enter the name of my old local account username - let's just say it's "firehawk" for example.

    When I type "firehawk" as my desired username, it says the account already exists (I assume because it's the name of my old local account) and I need to use a different name. If I use a different account name - say "firehawk-new", it will still migrate as expected and carry over all settings to this different account name and move everything from C:\Users\firehawk to C:\Users\firehawk-new?
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  8. Posts : 43,009
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

    If you create a new account, then if they are both the same MS account and synched (that would be on different devices, not your case) then settings etc would be replicated, but not installed programs.

    If you create a new account on the same PC, only downloaded programs that you have installed for everyone are available.
    Files in Documents, Pictures etc are per user account.
    Store apps are registered per user account.

    I don't know why you want to keep trying to migrate from one account to another. You're free to try to do that of course- a lot more work than changing the MS account you don't want to being a local account.

    I'll wish you good luck as I don't see how I can contribute more.
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  9. Posts : 1,223
    W10-Pro 22H2
       #9

    dalchina said:
    I don't know why you want to keep trying to migrate from one account to another.
    I don't think that is what the OP is trying to do - I read it that they would like to convert the MS account to a local one, but want use the name 'Firehawk' - but they are blocked from that because there is an existing 'Firehawk' account. The solution is either to firste delete the existing (and useless) Firehawk account, or convert the MS account to use a different name. Using a new name should not upset the carry-over of account settings.

    To the OP: I don't think, based on what you have written, that the acct settings you want to retain are contained in the old 'firehawk' folder, but will be in the new folder that got created when the switch to MS account occurred. Be aware that if you manage to convert the MS acct to a local one, the name of the folder under users will not, based on my experience, change from whatever it is right now.

    PS I may have got it all wrong, in which case I apologise to Dalchina and the OP.
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  10. Posts : 43,009
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #10

    I agree that if there's a name conflict with an existing and unwanted account that account can be deleted.

    Or, more cautiously, the unwanted account's user name could be changed.

    As for migration: the last post ends
    If I use a different account name - say "firehawk-new", it will still migrate as expected and carry over all settings to this different account name and move everything from C:\Users\firehawk to C:\Users\firehawk-new?
    - hence my reference to migration...

    - which I absolutely agree as I've said is not what I believe is necessary or should be done.. and have provided the tutorial to change the MS account to local.


    Here's a tutorial for changing the user name (not the user profile folder name):
    Change User Name of Account in Windows 10

    So you can change firehawk to firehawk-no-more or whatever you wish... for the unwanted account... or else delete it.
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