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  1. Posts : 30
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #11

    Sorry, but I'm confused. You said:
    "Once you have taken that precaution, you should use NetPlwiz again to
    1 undo the automatic logon you set up,
    2 then reboot,
    3 then you can use NetPlwiz again to re-do the automatic logon."
    And I said I didn't know how to undo the automatic logon I set up.
    So what is option 1 and what is step 3?

    - - - Updated - - -

    One last question (hopefully): if I want to automatically log in to my Microsoft account do I first have to set up a user with my email address as the user name? Looking at Accounts, Email & Accounts in Setup, my Microsoft account is listed under Accounts used by other apps. But it is not listed in netplwiz. Under Your Info, my email address appears under my original local user account name.
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  2. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #12

    Have you created a spare, local, password-protected Admin user account yet as a precaution?

    Denis
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  3. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #13

    ellary said:
    So what is option 1 and what is step 3?
    I answered that in my post #10.
    Read that tutorial, work through Option 1 until you have done step 3 of it then stop.

    Denis
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  4. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #14

    ellary said:
    Under Your Info, my email address appears under my original local user account name.
    I do not understand what your situation is. I just don't get what you have written.
    Please post
    1 A screenshot of Settings, Accounts, Your info - but open the diagram first in MSPaint or similar and draw a big black line through your your email address so it cannot be read by trolls.
    2 Post the response to this command [which can be run in a cmd window or a PowerShell window - just right-click on your Start button & use whichever is shown in its list]
    Code:
    net user
    You can post the response as a diagram or by copying and pasting the text. there's no need to blank out anything.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  5. Posts : 30
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Ellary2 is the second user I added.
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  6. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #16

    1 Have you created a spare Admin account yet? Post #4 For all I know, you have. For all I know Ellary2 or ellar is that account. But you have not said so.

    2 Have you removed the attempt to log in automatically yet? Option 1 step 3 of Sign in User Account Automatically - TenForumsTutorials [post #6]

    3 Just to avoid ambiguity,
    3.1 Please use your browser to go to your MSAccount online. Does it also show your account [Full] name as Ellary [when you click on the avatar or E/EL symbol in the top-right corner, assuming outlook.com]?
    3.2 On the same tack, run this command and say what it contains in the line labelled Full name
    Code:
    net user Ellary
    I think both will report the same Full name.

    ellary said:
    One last question (hopefully): if I want to automatically log in to my Microsoft account do I first have to set up a user with my email address as the user name?
    4 I think your Ellary user account is your MSAccount.
    - I think you created Ellary and only then converted it to an MSAccount so the computer would continue to show it as Ellary and your user folders would still be within C:\Users\Ellary.
    - This is a perfectly sensible way to have done it and many others wish they had done it the same way.
    I want to double-check this [hence my para 3 tests] but I believe that Windows uses Ellary as its internal name for your user account even though it's an MSAccount-linked email account. This is normal.
    - - If user Christopher had created an MSAccount-linked user account straight off the bat without doing it your way, Windows would use as its internal username for this Chris and this would be confusing for his wife Christine.
    - - They could have avoided this by doing it your way. Local accounts Christopher and Christine would have retained their full names after being converted to MSAccounts so their C:\Users\Christopher & C:\Users\Christine user folders would not have caused any confusion.
    In short, I do not think there is any problem.
    I think NetPlWiz is listing Ellary and Ellary is your MSAccount-linked user account.


    Please respond to my questions 1 & 2.

    Please double-check the account name as I requested in para 3.

    Then you will be in a position to repeat the NetPlWiz method to log in automatically. See post #6 You'll use Option 1 Step 4 this time.

    Secondary issue - I assume you know what Ellary2 and ellar are. ellar has 5 characters in its name and that is what another MSAccount might have. If the response to the command
    net user ellar
    has an entry in the Full name line then it probably is an MSAccount.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  7. Posts : 30
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    1. Yes, Ellary2 is the additional Admin account.
    2. Yes, I removed the attempt to log in automatically.
    3.1 My MS account has my full name, Ellary Kahan. (Also, C: Users shows a folder for Ellary and Ellary Kahan)
    3.2 Full name is blank.
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  8. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #18

    3 I'm not sure what is going on then.
    - I have seen claims that Windows can assign six characters instead of five for the internal name is uses for an MSAccount-linked user account.
    - So perhaps that has happened in this case

    If Ellary appears in the accounts list shown by NetPlWiz then I think you can go ahead and choose it.
    The worst case is merely that you might have to undo it again. You have that Ellary2 to fall back on if anything untoward happens.


    When you've done this, I can guide you through checking out that ellar account and finding out which C:\Users\... folder is used by which user account. It is only slightly awkward but I'm keen not to introduce any more complications now that you are ready to set up NetPlWiz on Ellary.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  9. Posts : 30
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Trying to use Ellary to automatically sign in to MS is what started this issue. It may be easier at this point to try to eliminate the need to log in altogether? And maybe we should also try to find out what's behind that ellar account.
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  10. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #20

    1 Ellary & NetPlWiz

    Are you saying that Ellary does not appear in the list in NetPlWiz?
    What accounts does it list?
    I would expect to see:
    Ellary OR its full email address
    Ellary2
    ellar


    2 ellar

    You can get some information about ellar by using this command
    Code:
    net user ellar

    Denis
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