Administrator Problems

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  1. Posts : 71
    Windows 10
       #1

    Administrator Problems


    Hello

    My Windows version is Windows 10.

    A few days ago I added an Administrator Account to my compurter in addition to the Local Account I already had on there. Now suddenly, the ability to log into the Administrator Account at all is missing. And the Administrator Account itself is not appeariong on "User Accounts". I had decided for some reason that I didn't want the Administrator Account activated and followed instructions I had found using the CMD Prompt. I had no idea everything would just disa[ppear like that, though.

    Now, when I wanted to re-install Windows 10 to try and get everything back top "normal" and try to re-install Windows a window pops up and asks me if I want to allow this app to to it, the only option there is NO. And so now I cannot even get Windows reinstalled or even find or add back the Administrator Account.

    I tried using the CMD Prompt again but it only brings up my local Account and wont allow me to type in anything else.

    Could someone please help me with this problem?
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  2. Posts : 14,022
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #2

    I do hope you used a different or slightly different User name for the second account. If using the same name the 2 profiles will be as one and to correct will require a clean install, had to deal with that problem earlier this year for a client. In his case I had to boot to a Linux Mint LiveUSB to first save all his data then used GPARTED to wipe the drive then install Win10.
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  3. Posts : 1,768
    Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
       #3

    1. Right-click on Start.
    2. Choose Windows PowerShell (Admin)... or Windows PowerShell (it doesn't matter which).
    3. When the PowerShell console opens, enter Get-LocalUser.

    What does it show?
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  4. Posts : 16,955
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #4

    ClaudiaThompson said:
    A few days ago I added an Administrator Account to my compurter in addition to the Local Account I already had on there.
    In addition to responding to Rick's post, do note that you seem to be confusing terms. Accounts are not divided into "Administrator Account" and "Local Account". You can have
    1 An Admin user account that is an MSAccount-linked user account.
    2 A Standard Admin user account that is an MSAccount-linked user account.
    3 An Admin user account that is a Local user account.
    4 A Standard Admin user account that is a Local user account.

    ClaudiaThompson said:
    Now, when I wanted to re-install Windows 10 to try and get everything back top "normal" and try to re-install Windows a window pops up and asks me if I want to allow this app to to it, the only option there is NO.
    The "only option there is NO" confirms that you have either deleted or disabled your Admin account.
    You should not have ended up where you are if all you did was mess about with an account that you had added. Your existing account should not have been affected.
    Are you able to tell us exactly what commands you used?
    Fixing your problem will require you to work through this procedure.
    Fix UAC prompt has greyed out or missing Yes button - TenForumsTutorials

    Depending on your responses to Rick's advice & to my question, there might be additional useful steps to follow but you will definitely be back in control of your computer when you have followed that tutorial procedure. Post back here if you have any questions as you work through it.


    Best of luck,
    Denis



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  5. Posts : 71
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Try3 said:
    In addition to responding to Rick's post, do note that you seem to be confusing terms. Accounts are not divided into "Administrator Account" and "Local Account". You can have
    1 An Admin user account that is an MSAccount-linked user account.
    2 A Standard Admin user account that is an MSAccount-linked user account.
    3 An Admin user account that is a Local user account.
    4 A Standard Admin user account that is a Local user account.


    The "only option there is NO" confirms that you have either deleted or disabled your Admin account.
    You should not have ended up where you are if all you did was mess about with an account that you had added. Your existing account should not have been affected.
    Are you able to tell us exactly what commands you used?
    Fixing your problem will require you to work through this procedure.
    Fix UAC prompt has greyed out or missing Yes button - TenForumsTutorials

    Depending on your responses to Rick's advice & to my question, there might be additional useful steps to follow but you will definitely be back in control of your computer when you have followed that tutorial procedure. Post back here if you have any questions as you work through it.


    Best of luck,
    Denis



    Welcome to TenForums.

    It's really worth making time to browse through the Tutorial index - there's a shortcut to it at the top of every page.
    - At the foot of the Tutorial index is a shortcut to download it as a spreadsheet.
    - I download a new copy each month.
    - By downloading it as a spreadsheet I can benefit from Excel's excellent filtering capabilities when I search for topics of interest.
    - Tutorials are also listed by category at Tutorials - there's also a shortcut to that at the top of every page.
    - Both tutorial lists are searchable.
    - You can also search for TenForumsTutorials in many general search engines, such as Google, by adding site:tenforums.com/tutorials after your search term. For example,
    taskbar toolbars site:tenforums.com/tutorials

    You can search TenForums using the search box in the top-right corner of all TenForums webpages or using Advanced Search - TenForums
    - You can also search TenForums threads in many general search engines, such as Google, by adding site:tenforums.com after your search term. For example,
    Search for drivers by HardwareID site:tenforums.com
    - [This is what the search box in the top-right corner of TenForums webpages does automatically]
    I was looking through my web page history and I think that what I did was try to reverse what I had done here and put NO instead of YES.

    c:\>net user administrator /active:yes

    Another thing is that when it asks if I want to allow apps to do whatever and the only option is NO, it also tells me to put in my Administrator user name and password, but then there is no place to put it at all.

    I may have done something beyond that, but so far I cant find anything in my web page history.

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    Berton said:
    I do hope you used a different or slightly different User name for the second account. If using the same name the 2 profiles will be as one and to correct will require a clean install, had to deal with that problem earlier this year for a client. In his case I had to boot to a Linux Mint LiveUSB to first save all his data then used GPARTED to wipe the drive then install Win10.
    I am completely clueless when it comes to Linus an d GPARTED and all of that.

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    RickC said:
    1. Right-click on Start.
    2. Choose Windows PowerShell (Admin)... or Windows PowerShell (it doesn't matter which).
    3. When the PowerShell console opens, enter Get-LocalUser.

    What does it show?
    I hope I did the right thing but it seems to show this....

    To run PowerShell as administrator via the Run command window: Press Win Key + R. A a small window will pop up as shown in the screenshot below. Type in powershell and press Ctrl+Shift+Enter or press and hold Ctrl+Shift. Click OK to make PowerShell run as administrator. Youre now running PowerShell as administrator.

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    RickC said:
    1. Right-click on Start.
    2. Choose Windows PowerShell (Admin)... or Windows PowerShell (it doesn't matter which).
    3. When the PowerShell console opens, enter Get-LocalUser.

    What does it show?
    I hope that I did this right....

    Administrator False /Built-in account for admnistering the computer/domain
    Default Account False /a user account managed the system
    Guest False /Built-in account for guest access to the computer/domain
    TryingMe4 True
    MDAGutilityAccount False /a user account managed and used by the system for Windows Defender Application Guard scen....
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  6. Posts : 16,955
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #6

    ClaudiaThompson said:
    I was looking through my web page history and I think that what I did was try to reverse what I had done here and put NO instead of YES.

    c:\>net user administrator /active:yes
    That is acting on the Built-in Admin account not on any account you have created yourself.
    The Built-in Admin account has the UserName Administrator.
    That command needs an Admin cmd prompt to run anyway so, since you say that you cannot achieve that at the moment, nothing will have changed as a result of running either ... /active:yes or ... /active:no.
    I can see in your Get-LocalUser results that the Built-in Admin account remains in its normal disabled condition

    ClaudiaThompson said:
    Administrator False /Built-in account for admnistering the computer/domain
    Default Account False /a user account managed the system
    Guest False /Built-in account for guest access to the computer/domain
    TryingMe4 True
    MDAGutilityAccount False /a user account managed and used by the system for Windows Defender Application Guard scen....
    The only account you have that you created is TryingMe4.
    If you did add another user account then you must have deleted it later on.
    Both adding & deleting a user account would have required correctly functioning Admin status for your existing account.
    Those ... /active:yes or ... /active:no commands do not create an account so perhaps you were just mistaken about having created an additional account.

    ClaudiaThompson said:
    Another thing is that when it asks if I want to allow apps to do whatever and the only option is NO, it also tells me to put in my Administrator user name and password, but then there is no place to put it at all.
    That is a variation of the problem that I have not seen very often.
    The solution remains the same.



    What you need to do is:-
    Try3 said:
    Fixing your problem will require you to work through this procedure.
    Fix UAC prompt has greyed out or missing Yes button - TenForumsTutorials


    Best of luck,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 30 Oct 2022 at 06:33.
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  7. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    Usual plug- protect yourself, your PC, your data, your time and possibly even your sanity - potentially save clean installs - and give yourself a second chance when things go badly wrong...and a full backup

    - use disk imaging regularly and routinely e.g. Macrium Reflect (free/paid) + large enough external storage for image files.

    That way you can restore your O/S and any imaged partitions to a previous good state.
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  8. Posts : 1,768
    Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
       #8

    ClaudiaThompson said:
    I hope I did the right thing but it seems to show this....

    Administrator False /Built-in account for admnistering the computer/domain
    Default Account False /a user account managed the system
    Guest False /Built-in account for guest access to the computer/domain
    TryingMe4 True
    MDAGutilityAccount False /a user account managed and used by the system for Windows Defender Application Guard scen....
    Yes, that's exactly right. It shows that the only ENABLED account (i.e. showing as True) is one called TryingMe4.

    If TryingMe4 was the very first account you created when Windows was run for the first time then it should automatically be in the Administrators group... although it's also possible to demote it to a standard account. It might be helpful to confirm its group membership:

    1. Right-click on Start.
    2. Choose Windows PowerShell (Admin)... or Windows PowerShell (it doesn't matter which).
    3. When the PowerShell console opens, enter Get-LocalGroupMember -name administrators.

    The PowerShell console will show a list of accounts. For example, my laptop shows 3 local accounts - the built-in Administrator and 2 further accounts called transfer and user. The PowerShell prompt at the bottom shows I'm currently using the account called user:

    Administrator Problems-poweshell_current_group_membership.png
    (From the previous PowerShell commandlet - Get-LocalUser - I know that the built-in Administrator account is disabled.)

    Post back exactly what shows in the list on your PC. (You can select the result in the PowerShell console then press CTRL+C to copy it to the Windows clipboard for pasting into a post... or use a screenshot.)

    Hope this helps...
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  9. Posts : 16,955
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #9

    Rick,

    Everything you have written is correct, as always.
    But you seem to be missing the symptoms that demonstrate that her sole user account is corrupt. Her descriptions of her Admin prompts do not match any valid forms.
    ClaudiaThompson said:
    ... a window pops up and asks me if I want to allow this app to to it, the only option there is NO.
    ClaudiaThompson said:
    Another thing is that when it asks if I want to allow apps to do whatever and the only option is NO, it also tells me to put in my Administrator user name and password, but then there is no place to put it at all.
    What Claudia needs to do is:-
    Try3 said:
    Fixing your problem will require you to work through this procedure.
    Fix UAC prompt has greyed out or missing Yes button - TenForumsTutorials


    All the best,
    Denis
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  10. Posts : 1,768
    Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
       #10

    Denis, I just found the OP's first post confusing so - for my own understanding - first clarified whether the OP just disabled or actually deleted the 'Administrator Account' she created.

    I still don't understand why her TryingMe4 local account could suddenly become corrupted after being used to delete the 'Administrator Account' she created.
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