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  1.    28 Aug 2015 #21
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    I'm glad I could help some.

    It sounds like the old account may still be there. Use the tutorial below to see all account details, and post back the information from it to see if the account is still there or not.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html
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  2.    28 Aug 2015 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I'm glad I could help some.

    It sounds like the old account may still be there. Use the tutorial below to see all account details, and post back the information from it to see if the account is still there or not.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html
    Okay I will have to do that tomorrow because it is getting late here where I am at.

    But guess what? I somehow managed to change the name on that folder that was bugging me half to death!


    Here is what I did... any time I would try to rename it or delete it, something would pop up saying it was open somewhere else and could not be deleted or renamed. So I decided to do the old msconfig thing and I turned off all the services that were running and restarted my computer with everything turned off. Then I went back and decided to rename the folder rather than delete it, in case I were to delete something important, and to my surprise, it worked! Then I went back and did the msconfig thing again and set all the services enabled again and restarted my computer and checked and the folder is now officially renamed!

    So now it is 3 down and 1 to go, which is that problem with no being able to get rid of that old account, mainly now because I can't even log into it now. But even if I never ever am able to get rid of it, it will be well worth it to get rid of that old folder LOL!

    I will know in the morning whether or not my computer automatically shut itself down or not. Hopefully not, since I managed to accidentally find the thing to check or uncheck that says not to put the computer to sleep and make you have to resign in every day.

    Anyway good night and once again... thank you!
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  3.    28 Aug 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I'm glad I could help some.

    It sounds like the old account may still be there. Use the tutorial below to see all account details, and post back the information from it to see if the account is still there or not.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html

    I forgot to say that I did notice that it seemed that when I tried to set my thingy on logging in as administrator where you go to the net administrator and whatever else like active: yes that it told me access is denied. And it made me wonder then if that means the administrator thing is on in this other account maybe? Like I am not sure if you can have two different administrator accounts? Whats weird though is in this new account I have it set as tye type of account being administrator. I hope that I did not hopelessly mess anything up, making it where I can never ever log in as the administrator in this new account.
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  4.    29 Aug 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I'm glad I could help some.

    It sounds like the old account may still be there. Use the tutorial below to see all account details, and post back the information from it to see if the account is still there or not.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html

    Okay here is the list it gave to me. By the way, my computer STILL turned itself off last night and I had to turn it back on myself this morning, so I think that probably means the other account is still there. I guess this means that I will continue to have that problem unless the old account is somehow removed.





    AccountType=512
    Description=Built-in account for administering the computer/domain
    Disabled=TRUE
    Domain=CLAUDIAPC
    FullName=
    InstallDate=
    LocalAccount=TRUE
    Lockout=FALSE
    Name=Administrator
    PasswordChangeable=TRUE
    PasswordExpires=FALSE
    PasswordRequired=TRUE
    SID=S-1-5-21-1118451830-2243368315-1211529218-500
    SIDType=1
    Status=Degraded




    AccountType=512
    Description=
    Disabled=FALSE
    Domain=CLAUDIAPC
    FullName=
    InstallDate=
    LocalAccount=TRUE
    Lockout=FALSE
    Name=Claudia
    PasswordChangeable=TRUE
    PasswordExpires=FALSE
    PasswordRequired=FALSE
    SID=S-1-5-21-1118451830-2243368315-1211529218-1007
    SIDType=1
    Status=OK




    AccountType=512
    Description=A user account managed by the system.
    Disabled=TRUE
    Domain=CLAUDIAPC
    FullName=
    InstallDate=
    LocalAccount=TRUE
    Lockout=FALSE
    Name=DefaultAccount
    PasswordChangeable=TRUE
    PasswordExpires=TRUE
    PasswordRequired=TRUE
    SID=S-1-5-21-1118451830-2243368315-1211529218-503
    SIDType=1
    Status=Degraded




    AccountType=512
    Description=Built-in account for guest access to the computer/domain
    Disabled=TRUE
    Domain=CLAUDIAPC
    FullName=
    InstallDate=
    LocalAccount=TRUE
    Lockout=FALSE
    Name=Guest
    PasswordChangeable=FALSE
    PasswordExpires=FALSE
    PasswordRequired=FALSE
    SID=S-1-5-21-1118451830-2243368315-1211529218-501
    SIDType=1
    Status=Degraded
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  5.    29 Aug 2015 #25
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    Here are the screen shots from both the PC Settings/Accounts view and the Control Panel/User Accounts view. Also with the Family and other Users Accounts view. And as you can see, it only seems to show the one account. If it isn't okay to post these here, just let me know and I will remove the screenshots. And like I said, it was a little strange to me that when I tried doing the thing where you make yourself Administrator, it said Access denied. So I am not sure then if this is a true real administrator account? I don't know anything much about this sort of stuff. But I just am afraid of never being able to do things as the Administrator again.

    Also just adding that when I shut down my computer and restart it, it shows the two different accounts to sign into. And only one of them can be signed into, which is the last one I created, that shows on all these screenshots.

    Just to explain what I mean about the Administrator thing... If I go to my Users folder and click to open it, there is a folder called "Administrator".


    If I click on this folder, it says "You currently do not have permission to open this folder" and then I had to click 'continue' to be able to open it. Which I don't understand, since it says on my account that I am Administrator.


    Then when I tried to do the changing it to Administrator using the CMD thing, it said "Access Denied"... just to explain that further when I said I am confused about whethere I am actually the Administrator of this new account. It makes me wonder if the other old invisible account is still in control.

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  6.    29 Aug 2015 #26
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    Claudia,

    It shows that the only activated account on your PC is your "Claudia" account.

    Your "Claudia" account is a local account, and it is an "administrator" type account. Even as an administrator, you must approve (UAC) before being able to do anything that requires elevated rights.

    The "Administrator" folder you tried to open was the user profile folder of the built-in elevated "Administrator" account that is currently disabled. Access other user's profile folders require elevated right, and thus why you had to approve (Continue) first.

    As for the CMD issue, it sounds like you didn't open an elevated command prompt (right click on CMD, and click on "Run as administrator".


    In Windows XP, administrator accounts were elevated and have full unrestricted access.

    Since Windows Vista, administrator accounts are no longer elevated by default. Administrators must first provide approval (UAC) whenever they try to perform an action that requires elevated rights. This was done to help provide better security so that malware couldn't just easily perform elevated actions without you getting a UAC prompt for approval first. You can also use run as administrator to run something elevated.

    The built-in elevated Administrator account in Vista, Windows 7, 8, 10 is like the one in XP. However, modern apps will not run in an elevated account.
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  7.    29 Aug 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Claudia,

    It shows that the only activated account on your PC is your "Claudia" account.

    Your "Claudia" account is a local account, and it is an "administrator" type account. Even as an administrator, you must approve (UAC) before being able to do anything that requires elevated rights.

    The "Administrator" folder you tried to open was the user profile folder of the built-in elevated "Administrator" account that is currently disabled. Access other user's profile folders require elevated right, and thus why you had to approve (Continue) first.

    As for the CMD issue, it sounds like you didn't open an elevated command prompt (right click on CMD, and click on "Run as administrator".


    In Windows XP, administrator accounts were elevated and have full unrestricted access.

    Since Windows Vista, administrator accounts are no longer elevated by default. Administrators must first provide approval (UAC) whenever they try to perform an action that requires elevated rights. This was done to help provide better security so that malware couldn't just easily perform elevated actions without you getting a UAC prompt for approval first. You can also use run as administrator to run something elevated.

    The built-in elevated Administrator account in Vista, Windows 7, 8, 10 is like the one in XP. However, modern apps will not run in an elevated account.

    Okay then but why is it that whenever I shut my computer down and restart it, there are two different accounts there that I can choose to sign in to? But one of them won't allow me to when I put in the email and password? I wish I could take a screenshot of that but I have to use my Paint Shop Pro to do it, and of course I can't till I log in.
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  8.    29 Aug 2015 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Claudia,

    It shows that the only activated account on your PC is your "Claudia" account.

    Your "Claudia" account is a local account, and it is an "administrator" type account. Even as an administrator, you must approve (UAC) before being able to do anything that requires elevated rights.

    The "Administrator" folder you tried to open was the user profile folder of the built-in elevated "Administrator" account that is currently disabled. Access other user's profile folders require elevated right, and thus why you had to approve (Continue) first.

    As for the CMD issue, it sounds like you didn't open an elevated command prompt (right click on CMD, and click on "Run as administrator".


    In Windows XP, administrator accounts were elevated and have full unrestricted access.

    Since Windows Vista, administrator accounts are no longer elevated by default. Administrators must first provide approval (UAC) whenever they try to perform an action that requires elevated rights. This was done to help provide better security so that malware couldn't just easily perform elevated actions without you getting a UAC prompt for approval first. You can also use run as administrator to run something elevated.

    The built-in elevated Administrator account in Vista, Windows 7, 8, 10 is like the one in XP. However, modern apps will not run in an elevated account.
    Well now I have got 2 more problems solved


    I tried the screenshot thing and it seems to be working now in this new account.


    I turned my computer off again so that I could take a screenshot to show you what it looks like, but it won't let me do a screenshot till I log in.


    But anyway the Administrator thing now works since I followed your instructions and retried it. But now it has THREE log in things LOL!


    It says:


    Claudia


    Administrator


    Claudia's PC

    And why does it still shut off the computer every night? I did everything I could think of it make it stop doing that. I turned the screen saver thing off, under Personalize, I turned off the power saver to "Never" and I even turned it off in the User account where it gives you the option to tell it not to go into sleeper mode. Now it is changing the keyboard language thing when it turns off and I turn it back on. It changes the keyboard back to US but my keyboard is a UK keyboard. On the ENG thing in my askbar I have it set to UK United Kingdom. It makes where every time I put quotations it is @ instead.
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  9.    29 Aug 2015 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudiaThompson View Post
    Okay then but why is it that whenever I shut my computer down and restart it, there are two different accounts there that I can choose to sign in to? But one of them won't allow me to when I put in the email and password?
    It sounds like you may have Windows set to automatically sign in to an account at startup, but if the account no longer exists, you may be seeing what you are now.

    As a test, use the tutorial below to make sure that you have checked the Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer box to see if it still happens afterwards.

    Sign in User Account Automatically at Windows 10 Startup
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  10.    29 Aug 2015 #30
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    screenshot of 3 user accounts


    Okay I managed to get my friend to take a picture with his camera of the computer screen when I shut down the computer and turn it back on again... Can you see 3 different accounts? I know it should have the regular user account "Claudia" and the Administrator account, but that third one is supposed to be deleted.

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